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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1170 on: December 05, 2020, 06:43:53 AM »

It's an opinion piece. And written like one. But hey, let's start the posturing.
And yes. Until studies are done on those under 18, I'm not sure how the vaccine would get approved for them.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2020, 06:56:25 AM by Mn »

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1171 on: December 05, 2020, 11:29:27 AM »
Uh, I think he explained why that was, but that it would be even lower with greater mask usage.

Yeah sure it would 🙄
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1172 on: December 05, 2020, 11:38:35 AM »
Yeah sure it would 🙄

It is impressive, in a perverse way,  that you keep doubling down on the stupidity.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1173 on: December 05, 2020, 12:18:04 PM »
It is impressive, in a perverse way,  that you keep doubling down on the stupidity.

When did y’all become epidemiologists ?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1174 on: December 05, 2020, 12:45:21 PM »
I don't think the Golf character would use a word that big. Not in a grammatically correct sentence, anyhow.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1175 on: December 05, 2020, 02:16:23 PM »
We are in the ”post-intelligence” phase of society at this point. It doesn’t really matter how smart your brain is if you won’t try to use it.

I keep thinking that is new, but then recall the famous Asimov anti-intellectualism quote.  Maybe it's just that the Internet has provided a medium for idiots to get around publishers and propagate ignorance widely?

I used that quotation in a debate forum recently. A few indicated they never heard of Isaac Asimov.  Oddly, some of those seemed familiar with the laws of robotics. 
« Last Edit: December 05, 2020, 06:19:54 PM by illiniray »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1176 on: December 05, 2020, 02:23:17 PM »
The cdc link I provided says that the flu is irregularly low for this time of year.

I corrected your spelling error. I have read everything. I wondered what your point was.  Of course, with schools partially closed, other social activities limited, distancing, mask wearing, and so, cases of the seasonal flu are down. Covid-19 is bad, but it could be a lot worse. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1177 on: December 05, 2020, 02:29:26 PM »
When did y’all become epidemiologists ?

Put down the bong and turn off OANN and you might have time to learn something useful.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1178 on: December 05, 2020, 03:23:55 PM »
We walked through a white trashy neighborhood today, on the way to a park.

One of the trashiest has a Fuck Your Feelings flag pinned to the wall bordering his property. And of course, a fenced dog.

This is how they won the hearts of America's evangelical crowd, obviously.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1179 on: December 05, 2020, 04:16:27 PM »
We walked through a white trashy neighborhood today, on the way to a park.

One of the trashiest has a Fuck Your Feelings flag pinned to the wall bordering his property. And of course, a fenced dog.

This is how they won the hearts of America's evangelical crowd, obviously.

Did you stop in to say "hello" to JudgeJudy?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1180 on: December 06, 2020, 12:40:49 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1181 on: December 06, 2020, 01:29:18 AM »
The cdc link I provided says that the flu is irreguarily low for this time of year.

I had a typo - thanks for correcting it.

The flu is low because more people are wearing masks than would be in a typical year.

COVID would be higher if not for the levels we are seeing. But since it is so much more contagious and lethal than “the flu” - we have had 250,000 plus deaths despite the masks we do have. And more masks would lower that number

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1182 on: December 06, 2020, 01:32:01 AM »

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1183 on: December 06, 2020, 11:02:07 AM »
Illove97 is the only poster here with a sack

Congrats ILLove! Gelato and Plaza have joined you.  Quite the Axis of Idiocy you are putting together.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #1184 on: December 07, 2020, 01:08:03 PM »
An acquaintance of mine who is French but has been in Japan sent me this when I asked how life in Tokyo was during the pandemic. This is what he sent me:

Context:
- I am in Japan for the delivery of the Summer Olympics in Tokyo
- I am working for an International French company (with a Japanese partner)
- I am in Japan with my family (my wife and my two children, a 14 year old girl and a 10 year old son)
So we normally have to stay one year but it will be two  ;D

I just jump from Philippines to Japan (I was there for another event) so my last round is Jakarta, Philippines and Japan.
To start well, I planned to work in Canada and I am in Asia since 3 year now...

Okay, several things about the virus and its impacts.

Japan's habits keep everyone at a distance.
Society is tough and people are self-centered.
People don't touch each other (no handshakes, no hugs, no hands on the butt :))

Cleaning
- Public and private places are disinfected once or several times a day.
- The escalator ramps
- The lifts
- The entrance halls
- Tables at restaurants
- Food buffets you have to wearing. plastic gloves
- Hydroalcoholic products are systematic
- One-way travel flows in stores
- Social distancing
- Etc ...

Procedures:
- Very early, restaurants set up take-away sales
- The closing hours of restaurants, bars and shops at 22: 00/21: 00/20: 00
- Border closure (especially with China, US, Europe)
- Cancellation of visas (very extremist because it also affects non-Japanese spouses in bi-national couples)
- Fever control every day
- Quarantine if you are seek (and don't come into the office of course)
- Etc...

We foreigners.
I'll be frank, we live.
We go out for a drink, we go to a restaurant on weekdays or weekends. Between French, Foreigners and Japanese peoples. Regardless of the social level.
Nomikai or just for fun.
Life goes on here, adjusting. Keep in mind that the Japanese never want to be responsible (guilty?) For anything. So they will always do a little more than government is requesting to make sure they're doing the right thing.
As seen above, the Japanese lifestyle inspires confidence as people pay attention.
However, there is room for doubt as to the method of counting cases of infection, but one thing is certain, there are fewer cases due to compliance with the instructions and the Japanese attitude of following the rules.

Regarding travel abroad.
It is difficult to be able to fly outside of Japan, but for a month the government has relaxed the conditions a bit (no choice with the Olympics)
At the height of the epidemic, the question was to return home if we did not feel safe in terms of health, in the sense "would we be taken care of properly by hospitals in the case of infection". This remains our main stress.
The problem is, there is no clear information on the possibility of returning to Japan if we leave Tokyo for France, whether for vacation or for any other reason. there is stress adapted to each country and each situation for sure.
Today we are still fortunate to be able to communicate with the entity world thanks to new technologies, so we do not feel isolated.
I'm French so it's 11 / 12h flight home. It is certain that in the event of a serious or emergency problem, it is a relay that imposes additional stress.
I experienced the same thing in Indonesia and the Philippines, Asia is not next to Europe ...
Neither my wife nor my children feel in danger because of the Covid, for us parents it is the logistical situation that leads to stress.

However.
For economic recovery, the Japanese state has set up the "GoTo Travel" campaign to encourage people to consume and to move locally.
Very good initiative that allows you to travel at reduced cost within Japan and consume on the spot.
You have a 30% reduction on your trip + reservation which has been returned to you as a coupon to be spent at the vacation spot.
This idea also allows Japanese and foreigners not to immerse themselves into the depression (you know the fatal outcome of the depression in Japan ...)
Loneliness and depression are real social issues in Japan, the elderly are lonely, almost excluded from everyday life (this is one of the reasons why they seek so much to work, apart from low income). But... they are tough, grandma at 90 years old continu to pick up mushroom in the forest alone for hours...

But
- It is remains difficult (impossible) to get tested by the PCR test (Covid)
- The policy for identifying Covid cases is not very clear
- Access to healthcare is an ordeal. If you are in a state of emergency, it is very possible that you will pass from life to death because you don't have the right stamp on your papers...

So, to conclude, life is not stressful even with covid. The transport situation is not really clear, neither is the count of covid cases, but we do not feel in danger, stuck perhaps, a little but not in danger.
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