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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4980 on: January 12, 2023, 07:32:29 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-deadly-were-the-covid-lockdowns-excess-deaths-alcohol-heart-disease-accidents-life-youth-11673440091

How Deadly Were the Covid Lockdowns?

For Americans under 45, there were more excess deaths without the virus in 2020-21 than with it.

Red meat for Custard and Mn!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4981 on: January 12, 2023, 07:40:15 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 12, 2023, 07:32:29 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-deadly-were-the-covid-lockdowns-excess-deaths-alcohol-heart-disease-accidents-life-youth-11673440091

How Deadly Were the Covid Lockdowns?

For Americans under 45, there were more excess deaths without the virus in 2020-21 than with it.

Red meat for Custard and Mn!
Just like red meat at the grocery store, it's paywalled.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4982 on: January 12, 2023, 09:47:42 AM »
Quote from: Mn on January 12, 2023, 07:40:15 AM
Just like red meat at the grocery store, it's paywalled.

Something to be said that you will only read news that's free. You get what you pay for.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4983 on: January 12, 2023, 10:13:07 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on January 12, 2023, 09:47:42 AM
Something to be said that you will only read news that's free. You get what you pay for.

Usually people who make you pay for “news” tend to have an agenda. Hence the payment part of that equation. Follow the money, per se.

Are you really this fucking ignorant?!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4984 on: January 12, 2023, 12:08:54 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 12, 2023, 10:13:07 AM
Usually people who make you pay for “news” tend to have an agenda. Hence the payment part of that equation. Follow the money, per se.

Are you really this fucking ignorant?!

That agenda is making money selling news. As opposed to making money controlling people by giving them free content designed to manipulate them
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4985 on: January 12, 2023, 01:27:09 PM »
Mn, short version: younger people spent the lockdowns getting drunk, high, and eating too much and too much sugar and it killed more of them than one would usually expect. And they are still doing it.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4986 on: January 12, 2023, 01:53:47 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 12, 2023, 07:32:29 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-deadly-were-the-covid-lockdowns-excess-deaths-alcohol-heart-disease-accidents-life-youth-11673440091

How Deadly Were the Covid Lockdowns?

For Americans under 45, there were more excess deaths without the virus in 2020-21 than with it.

Red meat for Custard and Mn!

Had nothing to do with lockdowns. It was just that we elected Biden, the wall didn't get finished, fetanyl, QED.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4987 on: January 12, 2023, 01:56:56 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 12, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
Mn, short version: younger people spent the lockdowns getting drunk, high, and eating too much and too much sugar and it killed more of them than one would usually expect. And they are still doing it.

You just described my college years. What were you doing?

They complain about Zoom classes. I probably would have done BETTER with Zoom classes my first two years, given how many classes I blew off.

My nephew is at Purdue. He described a lot of angst, but my sister says "Mitch Daniels shut down the bars so they just had parties instead". Maybe the kids who struggled were not getting invited to those parties but would have gone to bars.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4988 on: January 12, 2023, 02:37:08 PM »
The obese generation.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4989 on: January 12, 2023, 03:43:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 12, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
Mn, short version: younger people spent the lockdowns getting drunk, high, and eating too much and too much sugar and it killed more of them than one would usually expect. And they are still doing it.

From Nov 2022 ....

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4990 on: January 12, 2023, 03:45:48 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 12, 2023, 03:43:28 PM
From Nov 2022 ....

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53

Sweden.
Nationalized health control.

Sweden also enforces restrictive gun controls. To be granted a Swedish gun license, applicants must be of good character and law-abiding. Hunting and sports guns can only be obtained after six months' assessment at a certified club.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4991 on: January 12, 2023, 04:47:18 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on January 12, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
That agenda is making money selling news. As opposed to making money controlling people by giving them free content designed to manipulate them

The agenda is what the corporate masters decide it is.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4992 on: January 12, 2023, 04:52:39 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 12, 2023, 03:43:28 PM
From Nov 2022 ....

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53

I wouldn't call the Swedish approach to COVID-19 a “no-lockdowns, no school closures, no masking” strategy.   

“As the number of cases surged, some restrictions were imposed. Public events were limited to a maximum of 50 people in March 2020, and eight people in November 2020.  Visits to nursing homes were banned and upper secondary schools closed.  Primary schools did, however, remain open throughout the pandemic.”

The majority of Swedes also were inclined to follow public health recommendations.   

“In a survey by Sweden’s Public Health Agency from the spring of 2020, more than 80% of Swedes reported they had adjusted their behaviour, for example by practising social distancing, avoiding crowds and public transport, and working from home.  Aggregated mobile data confirmed that Swedes reduced their travel and mobility during the pandemic.”

Finally, the public health authorities largely failed in their goal to protect the elderly.
https://www.preventionweb.net/news/did-swedens-controversial-covid-strategy-pay-many-ways-it-did-it-let-elderly-down
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4993 on: January 12, 2023, 04:56:56 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 12, 2023, 04:47:18 PM
The agenda is what the corporate masters decide it is.

It is target marketing. They are largely selling news to markets that exist. Maybe to some extent they, like advertisers, actually brainwash people. 

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4994 on: January 12, 2023, 05:04:36 PM »
Around here, the authorities refused to enforce "Prickster's" mandates. Yet the majority of restaurants, taverns, and churches complied anyway. Grocery, big box, and convenient stores posted mask requirements, but compliance was voluntary. I rarely saw anyone without a mask. Hospital, Dr. Offices, etc strictly enforced masks. I never saw anyone object. 
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