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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4845 on: January 06, 2023, 02:31:24 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 06, 2023, 01:10:49 PM
Can you give me a snapshot or at least tell me about where to scroll to? I don’t want to read for 6 minutes to find it.

Oh Jesus he gave you a link AND credible source and you still ask for this!!!!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4846 on: January 06, 2023, 03:56:22 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 06, 2023, 12:50:44 PM
Nov 2022 from Dr. Ashish Jha, the Covid-19 Response Coordinator ...
""If folks get their updated vaccines and they get treated if they have a breakthrough infection, we can prevent essentially every COVID death in America," he said. "That is a remarkable fact."

Over half of recent Covid deaths have been in the vaccinated.

"What explains the rising share of COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated people?"

"There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated. New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths."
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do-vaccinated-people-represent-most-covid-19-deaths-right-now/

Makes sense to me. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4847 on: January 06, 2023, 05:05:23 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on January 06, 2023, 03:56:22 PM
"What explains the rising share of COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated people?"

"There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated. New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths."
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/why-do-vaccinated-people-represent-most-covid-19-deaths-right-now/

Makes sense to me.

Also: a lot of them watched the Illini Northwestern game and then listened to Joy Division's first album
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4848 on: January 06, 2023, 05:23:15 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 06, 2023, 01:26:41 PM
It's after this, from the CDC Director Dr. Walensky ...
"CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky called any suffering or death from Covid-19 “tragic,” and noted that available vaccines mean that “the suffering and loss we are now seeing is nearly entirely avoidable.”

It's right above the section highlighted with....How to unstick the stck vax rate.
The part that quotes the Dr who works for the NIAID and helped in development of the Moderna vaccine.

“Suffering and death near entirely avoidable” isn’t “stopped in its tracks (i.e. 100% effective against infection).”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4849 on: January 06, 2023, 05:23:50 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on January 06, 2023, 01:36:19 PM
I got vaccinated, and boosted 2x

Never got COVID.

QED

Same. Think I was triple boosted, can’t recall
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4850 on: January 06, 2023, 05:24:38 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 06, 2023, 02:31:24 PM
Oh Jesus he gave you a link AND credible source and you still ask for this!!!!

Id be willing to do the same. If I’m going to spend 6 minutes reading the whole article I might as well do the Google searches myself.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4851 on: January 06, 2023, 05:49:58 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 06, 2023, 05:23:15 PM
“Suffering and death near entirely avoidable” isn’t “stopped in its tracks (i.e. 100% effective against infection).”
"stopped in it's tracks" was before you said the statement had to be from an MD.
But "death nearly entirely avoidable" from the good Dr. at the CDC is probably about as close as you'll get from a Dr.
And the same for  "prevent essentially every Covid death in America" from the good Dr Jha, the Covid 19 Response Coordinator.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4852 on: January 06, 2023, 05:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 06, 2023, 05:49:58 PM
"stopped in it's tracks" was before you said the statement had to be from an MD.
But "death nearly entirely avoidable" from the good Dr. at the CDC is probably about as close as you'll get from a Dr.
And the same for  "prevent essentially every Covid death in America" from the good Dr Jha, the Covid 19 Response Coordinator.

Maybe they should have stayed at Holiday Inn before they made those statements.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4853 on: January 06, 2023, 06:04:22 PM »
Life is a dis-ease with a bad prognosis ...
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4854 on: January 06, 2023, 09:05:51 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 06, 2023, 05:49:58 PM
"stopped in it's tracks" was before you said the statement had to be from an MD.
But "death nearly entirely avoidable" from the good Dr. at the CDC is probably about as close as you'll get from a Dr.
And the same for  "prevent essentially every Covid death in America" from the good Dr Jha, the Covid 19 Response Coordinator.

Specifically, I said Doctor(s). I saw quack doctors on Fox News saying Covid was no big deal, and no one needed the vax.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4855 on: January 06, 2023, 09:07:47 PM »
I believe the survival rate for seniors went up like to like 95-97% if they were vaxxed. Sounds “nearly entirely avoidable.” Hospitalizations went way way down too.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4856 on: January 06, 2023, 09:10:02 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 06, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
Not from senile Joe Malaprop Biden. Doctors.

Doctors (with an s). Find me an article form a major medical journal or reputable source where doctor(s) said “Covid will be stopped in its tracks.” Or anything resembling that.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4857 on: January 06, 2023, 09:11:18 PM »
Something from infectious disease control doctors (like a good chunk of them) would be even better. I’m confident you won’t find it.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4858 on: January 06, 2023, 09:43:52 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 06, 2023, 09:11:18 PM
Something from infectious disease control doctors (like a good chunk of them) would be even better. I’m confident you won’t find it.
Would 3-5 docs be enough ? Fauci, the CDC Director and the Covid 19 Response Director would be the spokespeople.
From Fauci ...
“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere.
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4859 on: January 06, 2023, 10:40:56 PM »
Quote from: Mn on January 06, 2023, 09:43:52 PM
Would 3-5 docs be enough ? Fauci, the CDC Director and the Covid 19 Response Director would be the spokespeople.
From Fauci ...
“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere.
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus/

Only three paragraphs into your article:

“So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it,” Fauci said.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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