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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4785 on: December 11, 2022, 02:36:18 PM »
WOW, I will read this study. It is what happened to me. I was perfectly healthy, got COVID, then now am at stage 3 liver damage.

Pretty sure it was those 3 bottles of wine per day during the Beijing lockdown

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4786 on: December 11, 2022, 02:39:53 PM »
WOW, I will read this study. It is what happened to me. I was perfectly healthy, got COVID, then now am at stage 3 liver damage.

Hope you feel better. Did we figure out if Squeaky gave you The COVID or not?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4787 on: December 11, 2022, 02:45:10 PM »
Hope you feel better. Did we figure out if Squeaky gave you The COVID or not?

Speaking of squeaky voices, maybe he could go on the voice or agt and become a pop singer?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4788 on: December 11, 2022, 02:50:19 PM »
Speaking of squeaky voices, maybe he could go on the voice or agt and become a pop singer?

I would check that out if he was on.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4789 on: January 05, 2023, 06:49:51 AM »
From UMass, published yesterday.

"Extensive antibody profiling and T-cell responses in the individuals who developed postvaccine myocarditis were essentially indistinguishable from those of vaccinated control subjects, despite a modest increase in cytokine production. A notable finding was that markedly elevated levels of full-length spike protein (33.9±22.4 pg/mL), unbound by antibodies, were detected in the plasma of individuals with postvaccine myocarditis, whereas no free spike was detected in asymptomatic vaccinated control subjects"

" However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause."
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4790 on: January 05, 2023, 08:46:47 AM »
From UMass, published yesterday.

"Extensive antibody profiling and T-cell responses in the individuals who developed postvaccine myocarditis were essentially indistinguishable from those of vaccinated control subjects, despite a modest increase in cytokine production. A notable finding was that markedly elevated levels of full-length spike protein (33.9±22.4 pg/mL), unbound by antibodies, were detected in the plasma of individuals with postvaccine myocarditis, whereas no free spike was detected in asymptomatic vaccinated control subjects"

" However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause."
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.061025

Break that down in plain English, Doc.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4791 on: January 05, 2023, 08:57:11 AM »
Break that down in plain English, Doc.

It means the shit they were forcing people to put in their  body and calling it a “vaccine” and “safe” might not be that.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4792 on: January 05, 2023, 09:05:48 AM »
Break that down in plain English, Doc.
The vaccine results in an inflammatory response and essentially equal immunity between those who develop myocarditis and those who don't.
The ones who develop myocarditis have spike proteins running around free in their system. The ones who don't develop myocarditis don't have free spike proteins.

The presence of free spike proteins may be predictive for myocarditis or a heart attack, or explain a heart attack or myocarditis that has already occurred.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4793 on: January 05, 2023, 11:21:01 AM »
So glad I didn’t get the mRNA bullshit. Despite all the propaganda, something was clearly not right about it all.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4794 on: January 05, 2023, 11:28:06 AM »
So glad I didn’t get the mRNA bullshit. Despite all the propaganda, something was clearly not right about it all.
I get the impression that myocarditis and heart attacks are more from the bi-valent vaccines. At my age, protection against the Delta variant made sense.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4795 on: January 05, 2023, 11:28:45 AM »
The vaccine results in an inflammatory response and essentially equal immunity between those who develop myocarditis and those who don't.
The ones who develop myocarditis have spike proteins running around free in their system. The ones who don't develop myocarditis don't have free spike proteins.

The presence of free spike proteins may be predictive for myocarditis or a heart attack, or explain a heart attack or myocarditis that has already occurred.

More from the authors of the study:

“'The risk of developing severe disease from acute infection significantly outweighs this rare risk,' stated Lael Yonker, pediatric pulmonary medicine specialist at Mass General for Children, and first author of the study. 'While this finding helps us better understand this potential complication, it does not alter the risk benefit ratio of receiving the COVID vaccines. The incidence of myocarditis and other heart-related complications among children infected with SARS-CoV-2 is much higher than the risk of post-vaccination myocarditis.'”

"The authors also noted it remains unclear whether the circulating spike protein was the cause of the myocarditis observed in these patients. Rare cases of myocarditis can occur after receiving vaccines for other conditions such as smallpox, so the spike protein could have been a biomarker of underlying immune dysregulation leading to the symptoms."

“'This was a precious sample set because these cases are so rare,' stated co-corresponding author David Walt, professor in the Brigham’s Department of Pathology. 'We studied them in great depth, which led to an interesting finding that could guide treatment strategies to reverse post-vaccine myocarditis.'”

"Previously suggested causes for post-vaccine myocarditis include aberrant immune responses to the vaccine, the production of autoantibodies, or potentially spike protein mimicking self-antigens, leading the immune system to attack heart tissue. Another factor at play is that myocarditis affects young men more than young women, which could be explained with hormonal mechanisms. Nonetheless, Yonker and Walt et al. found circulating spike protein in female patients as much as in male patients."

"The authors acknowledged limitations in their study, with a myocarditis group sample size of just 16. However, given the rarity of these cases, it was to be expected."

"In any case, the study continues to hammer home the point that vaccination for COVID-19 carries much fewer risks than infection by the virus, including for adolescents and young adults."

“'In most cases, post-vaccination myocarditis is mild and self-resolving,' said Yonker. 'But new insights about its cause could further help us to improve patients’ symptoms or prevent this complication from occurring.'”
https://www.insideprecisionmedicine.com/topics/patient-care/coronavirus/rare-covid-19-vaccine-complication-linked-to-circulating-spike-protein-in-blood/

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4796 on: January 05, 2023, 11:59:12 AM »
Any vaccine can trigger an aberrant immune response.

Just for example, according to the CDC, "On very rare occasions, people develop GBS in the days or weeks after getting a vaccination."

GBS has not been associated with Covid vaccines afaik.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4797 on: January 05, 2023, 03:54:19 PM »
It means the shit they were forcing people to put in their  body and calling it a “vaccine” and “safe” might not be that.

Oh, is that what that means? Explain why so.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4798 on: January 05, 2023, 03:55:54 PM »
More from the authors of the study:

“'The risk of developing severe disease from acute infection significantly outweighs this rare risk,' stated Lael Yonker, pediatric pulmonary medicine specialist at Mass General for Children, and first author of the study. 'While this finding helps us better understand this potential complication, it does not alter the risk benefit ratio of receiving the COVID vaccines. The incidence of myocarditis and other heart-related complications among children infected with SARS-CoV-2 is much higher than the risk of post-vaccination myocarditis.'”

"The authors also noted it remains unclear whether the circulating spike protein was the cause of the myocarditis observed in these patients. Rare cases of myocarditis can occur after receiving vaccines for other conditions such as smallpox, so the spike protein could have been a biomarker of underlying immune dysregulation leading to the symptoms."

“'This was a precious sample set because these cases are so rare,' stated co-corresponding author David Walt, professor in the Brigham’s Department of Pathology. 'We studied them in great depth, which led to an interesting finding that could guide treatment strategies to reverse post-vaccine myocarditis.'”

"Previously suggested causes for post-vaccine myocarditis include aberrant immune responses to the vaccine, the production of autoantibodies, or potentially spike protein mimicking self-antigens, leading the immune system to attack heart tissue. Another factor at play is that myocarditis affects young men more than young women, which could be explained with hormonal mechanisms. Nonetheless, Yonker and Walt et al. found circulating spike protein in female patients as much as in male patients."

"The authors acknowledged limitations in their study, with a myocarditis group sample size of just 16. However, given the rarity of these cases, it was to be expected."

"In any case, the study continues to hammer home the point that vaccination for COVID-19 carries much fewer risks than infection by the virus, including for adolescents and young adults."

“'In most cases, post-vaccination myocarditis is mild and self-resolving,' said Yonker. 'But new insights about its cause could further help us to improve patients’ symptoms or prevent this complication from occurring.'”
https://www.insideprecisionmedicine.com/topics/patient-care/coronavirus/rare-covid-19-vaccine-complication-linked-to-circulating-spike-protein-in-blood/

Buzz kill…
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #4799 on: January 05, 2023, 03:56:10 PM »
So glad I didn’t get the mRNA bullshit. Despite all the propaganda, something was clearly not right about it all.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.