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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3690 on: December 16, 2021, 09:01:31 PM »
The CMS mandate may be more restrictive than requirements that individual health care facilities have in place.
Losing administrative or support personnel is one thing. Losing care personnel is another.
Nonetheless, imo leave these people alone other than to thank them and reward them.

Or, they can get the jab so they don't possibly wind up taking up a hospital bed.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3691 on: December 16, 2021, 09:07:15 PM »
Well, looks like the 5th Circuit overturned the nationwide injunction, but Texas just got an injunction. 8th Circuit affirmed an injunction there.

This is all over the place.

Well, looks like we are just letting Darwin sort this all out anyway
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3692 on: December 16, 2021, 09:11:45 PM »
Nonetheless,  I believe there was already an injunction entered prohibiting that one from being enforced nationally.
Today .....

CNN)The Department of Justice asked the Supreme Court on Thursday to allow a vaccine mandate aimed at certain extra health care workers to go into effect nationwide,

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3693 on: December 16, 2021, 09:16:23 PM »
Today .....

CNN)The Department of Justice asked the Supreme Court on Thursday to allow a vaccine mandate aimed at certain extra health care workers to go into effect nationwide,

Almost Alum-like there, but you don't have a link!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3694 on: December 16, 2021, 09:23:54 PM »
Almost Alum-like there, but you don't have a link!
You got all the info you need tho.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3695 on: December 16, 2021, 09:31:49 PM »
That won’t solve the stress and burnout in the health care sector.   
https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-management/physician-health/half-health-workers-report-burnout-amid-covid-19

And if you look at hospitals and healthcare systems that have mandated the vaccines on their own, they’ve retained between 95% to 99% of their workforce.
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals/how-many-employees-have-hospitals-lost-to-vaccine-mandates-numbers-so-far

Get jabbed and boosted folks.

I cited the first hand experiences I’ve come across, I didn’t discount other reasons. Of course there are other reasons.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3696 on: December 16, 2021, 10:14:22 PM »
That's just anecdotal. Fart has first hand evidence that covid isn't real or not that bad among white, rural working class people involved in ag, sales and/or transportation industries.

I just did the math and the funny thing is that roughly half the people I run with socially are medical practitioners. A pretty good chunk (~50%) of the rest are educators at various levels. Some are actually both.

The medical practitioners I know tend to be less fatigued by this than the educators. There are extremely lucrative opportunities available right now for medical staff of all levels, especially short term assignments for those willing to travel. And most of them are already used to wearing masks and working shitty hours.

I’m sure part of the lucrative aspect is because so many have quit (probably older ones closer to retirement age, for various reasons) during a time when some places are seeing much higher demand for healthcare services.

Educators, on the other hand, have been slammed with all these protocols and mandates with no pay raises in most cases. And they’re stuck. They’re being tasked with trying to maintain a teaching environment but also administering all these other roll outs to boot.

There are several stay at home moms just in my neighborhood who used to be occasional substitute teachers for some supplemental income but are now essentially full time teachers. They can’t refuse very many calls or otherwise they get dropped to the bottom of the list and they make no supplemental income. One woman, who is a young widow and mother of three, finally said “fuck it” last week.

I don’t mind posting my real world encounters with people who know what is going on (at least in a given area) and having that contrasted with Alum74 posting articles. Anyone with a press credential can call around to hospitals until they get the sound bite that fits the narrative they wanted to create. People forget that.

The conversations I have with these industry professionals happen in decent sized groups at brunch or happy hour or when we are having a neighborhood get-together or working at a charity event or over Thanksgiving dinner.

One of my dearest friends is a practicing physician and also a med school professor. Should her thoughts be held in any lower regard than those found in Alum74’s articles?

They really don’t have any reason to make shit up, they’re just normal people navigating a very challenging situation. Their thoughts and feelings are certainly more complex and nuanced than the snippets we see in clickbait articles.

You read some of this shit and it sounds like everyone has lined up into regimented groups with no ability to think for themselves.

I clearly remember someone using anecdotal commentary from a family member (sister, sister-in-law, etc) to conduct vehement ad hominem attacks on forum members regarding coronavirus protocols/severity/risk factors. That person also repeatedly wishes death upon those who disagree with their/them’s perspective.

But that’s noble because, well, people who have different perspectives on something that’s still being sorted out should die. That mindset has worked great over the millennia.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3697 on: December 16, 2021, 10:50:27 PM »
That guy sounds smart.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3698 on: December 16, 2021, 10:50:54 PM »
No links included.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3699 on: December 16, 2021, 11:05:52 PM »
Fart, I'ma add to my hope list. In addition to Q's untimely death, I hope someone sues you for using this website to spread misinformation.

The idea that medical professionals are fed up with masks, and that their collective suffering is the creation of a meddling journalist, is disgusting.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3700 on: December 16, 2021, 11:10:43 PM »
Ok. I didn’t say medical professionals are fed up with masks. In fact, I said the exact opposite.

I mean there’s what I actually said and then what people want to believe I said.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3701 on: December 16, 2021, 11:52:12 PM »
Shove it up your ass.

It makes some sense. From what I’ve seen people have left their jobs for one of three primary reasons:

Mask mandate

Vaccine mandate

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3702 on: December 17, 2021, 06:05:11 AM »
This ...

"Anyone with a press credential can call around to hospitals until they get the sound bite that fits the narrative they wanted to create."


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3703 on: December 17, 2021, 07:39:03 AM »
Shove it up your ass.

Just a guess that "primary" may be a key word in that post.
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