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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3660 on: December 11, 2021, 04:40:16 PM »
It’s a little more complicated than that; it involves recording, storing, managing, reporting and analyzing the following information for each vaccination: 
•   Name,
•   Address
•   Sex
•   Date of birth
•   Race and ethnicity
•   The date and location of the vaccination
•   The shot received 

This big data collection effort comes after decades of the “hollowing-out” of federal, state and local health departments due to budgetary caps, staff retirements/brain drain and poor leadership. 

Upgrading data collection will be a work in progress.  Agree that it should be a government priority.   

Are you the CDC apologist?! What the fuck. Like just shut up. Why the fuck would you defend them so strongly? Weird 
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3661 on: December 11, 2021, 05:19:22 PM »
Meanwhile, every state will tell you how many shots were given this week, and where they stand with percent vaccinated.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3662 on: December 11, 2021, 08:33:00 PM »
Are you the CDC apologist?! What the fuck. Like just shut up. Why the fuck would you defend them so strongly? Weird
I think all of Judy's previous work was leading up to this moment.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3663 on: December 11, 2021, 08:44:26 PM »
Meanwhile, every state will tell you how many shots were given this week, and where they stand with percent vaccinated.

If only if it were that simple.  Many challenges have plagued state and local health department efforts to collect, track and report vaccinations.  Some problems have been fixed, but others will require more work.  Here’s a sampling:

"The New Hampshire vaccine dashboard shows 61.1% of residents are at least partly vaccinated, but the state is not counting all people who get their shots in pharmacies due to data collection issues, said Jake Leon, spokesperson for the state Department of Health and Human Services."
https://khn.org/news/article/cdc-senior-covid-vaccination-rates-appear-inflated/

“Both the city and state track vaccinations closely and regularly report those data. The problem is their systems don’t automatically link up for people who get doses in and out of the city. So, for instance, someone who got the first two doses in Montgomery County, but got a booster in Philadelphia, is not counted by the state as being boosted and is counted by the city as having only one dose. The opposite is true for someone who originally got vaccinated in Philadelphia and then was boosted outside the city.”
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/covid-booster-data-philadelphia-pa-20211211.html

“In contrast to these automated systems, Utah County is stuck entering records manually one at a time, a process that involves some 30 people laboring on the data on days vaccines are administered. Members of the National Guard have started helping the county with data entry, and Tolman-Hill said that officials are working on finding ways to automate some of the grunt work, including scanning.”
https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/29/covid19-vaccination-data-tracking-disparities/records.

“Health officials are unable to accurately track the number of vaccines administered in several states because of a reporting issue between pharmacies and state databases, CDC officials confirmed to McClatchy.   Georgia is one of the states affected by the error.  A state health department data team discovered the state’s shots were undercounted because site locations were not entered in electronic health records after a vaccine dose was administered through the Federal Retail Pharmacy Program.  The shot would be incorrectly credited as a dose administered in the pharmacy company’s home state instead of the state where the shot was actually given, a state health department spokesperson told McClatchy.”
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/coronavirus/article250061644.html

“Hawaii health officials had to revise the state's coronavirus vaccination rate after providers counted booster shots as first doses.  The percentage of residents who received at least one dose was lower than previously reported and the number booster shots given is higher, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reported.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/hawaii/articles/2021-11-30/hawaii-corrects-vaccination-rates-after-booster-report-error

"There's been an error in the number of vaccinations reported to the federal reporting system. The state of Kentucky says one major pharmacy, which is still unnamed, has accidentally been reporting numbers in two separate systems. That means the data Health Director Billy Pitts and the Marshall County Health Department have for vaccinations aren't correct at the moment."
https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/vaccine-numbers-in-kentucky-miscalculated-after-reporting-error-from-unnamed-pharmacy/article_976cd2ae-32dc-11ec-8c33-0b6c053ee879.html


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3664 on: December 11, 2021, 09:31:02 PM »
If only if it were that simple.  Many challenges have plagued state and local health department efforts to collect, track and report vaccinations.  Some problems have been fixed, but others will require more work.  Here’s a sampling:

"The New Hampshire vaccine dashboard shows 61.1% of residents are at least partly vaccinated, but the state is not counting all people who get their shots in pharmacies due to data collection issues, said Jake Leon, spokesperson for the state Department of Health and Human Services."
https://khn.org/news/article/cdc-senior-covid-vaccination-rates-appear-inflated/

“Both the city and state track vaccinations closely and regularly report those data. The problem is their systems don’t automatically link up for people who get doses in and out of the city. So, for instance, someone who got the first two doses in Montgomery County, but got a booster in Philadelphia, is not counted by the state as being boosted and is counted by the city as having only one dose. The opposite is true for someone who originally got vaccinated in Philadelphia and then was boosted outside the city.”
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/covid-booster-data-philadelphia-pa-20211211.html

“In contrast to these automated systems, Utah County is stuck entering records manually one at a time, a process that involves some 30 people laboring on the data on days vaccines are administered. Members of the National Guard have started helping the county with data entry, and Tolman-Hill said that officials are working on finding ways to automate some of the grunt work, including scanning.”
https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/29/covid19-vaccination-data-tracking-disparities/records.

“Health officials are unable to accurately track the number of vaccines administered in several states because of a reporting issue between pharmacies and state databases, CDC officials confirmed to McClatchy.   Georgia is one of the states affected by the error.  A state health department data team discovered the state’s shots were undercounted because site locations were not entered in electronic health records after a vaccine dose was administered through the Federal Retail Pharmacy Program.  The shot would be incorrectly credited as a dose administered in the pharmacy company’s home state instead of the state where the shot was actually given, a state health department spokesperson told McClatchy.”
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/coronavirus/article250061644.html

“Hawaii health officials had to revise the state's coronavirus vaccination rate after providers counted booster shots as first doses.  The percentage of residents who received at least one dose was lower than previously reported and the number booster shots given is higher, the Honolulu Star-Advertiser reported.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/hawaii/articles/2021-11-30/hawaii-corrects-vaccination-rates-after-booster-report-error

"There's been an error in the number of vaccinations reported to the federal reporting system. The state of Kentucky says one major pharmacy, which is still unnamed, has accidentally been reporting numbers in two separate systems. That means the data Health Director Billy Pitts and the Marshall County Health Department have for vaccinations aren't correct at the moment."
https://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/vaccine-numbers-in-kentucky-miscalculated-after-reporting-error-from-unnamed-pharmacy/article_976cd2ae-32dc-11ec-8c33-0b6c053ee879.html


The New Hampshire article questions CDC accuracy,  as in the link from 97.
The Philadelphia article most likely relates to the previous Pa article. Should be hopefully fixed by the end of the year, lol.
The Utah County is from January, 11 months ago.
The Ga article is from March, 8 months ago.
Hawaii is a current article.
Ky has been addressed. It should have been rectified by now per the previous article.

I can look at Mn as of Fri and see discrepancies with CDC data as of today.
If you want to believe CDC, they'll tell you their data is not accurate.
"CDC officials said the agency may not be able to determine whether a person is receiving a first, second, or booster dose if their shots were received in different states or even from providers within the same city or state. This can cause the CDC to overestimate first doses and underestimate booster doses, CDC spokesperson Scott Pauley said."
If you want to believe the states, the CDC data is not accurate.
Walensky should go back to Massachusetts General and Harvard.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3665 on: December 12, 2021, 09:43:25 AM »
The New Hampshire article questions CDC accuracy,  as in the link from 97.
The Philadelphia article most likely relates to the previous Pa article. Should be hopefully fixed by the end of the year, lol.
The Utah County is from January, 11 months ago.
The Ga article is from March, 8 months ago.
Hawaii is a current article.
Ky has been addressed. It should have been rectified by now per the previous article.

I can look at Mn as of Fri and see discrepancies with CDC data as of today.
If you want to believe CDC, they'll tell you their data is not accurate.
"CDC officials said the agency may not be able to determine whether a person is receiving a first, second, or booster dose if their shots were received in different states or even from providers within the same city or state. This can cause the CDC to overestimate first doses and underestimate booster doses, CDC spokesperson Scott Pauley said."
If you want to believe the states, the CDC data is not accurate.
Walensky should go back to Massachusetts General and Harvard.

Good.  It looks like you now have a better understanding of the complexity of vaccine collection and reporting issues in the U.S.   

Let’s recap:
•   The problems are widespread (not just CDC, but also at the state and local level)
•   The problems started early on, not recently
•   The problems are diverse; in some cases, requiring unique fixes
•   Some problems have been resolved, some are ongoing and new ones have cropped up

The good news is that the CDC and states have demonstrated a willingness to work together to fix the problems.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3666 on: December 12, 2021, 09:59:22 AM »
Good.  It looks like you now have a better understanding of the complexity of vaccine collection and reporting issues in the U.S.   

Let’s recap:
•   The problems are widespread (not just CDC, but also at the state and local level)
•   The problems started early on, not recently
•   The problems are diverse; in some cases, requiring unique fixes
•   Some problems have been resolved, some are ongoing and new ones have cropped up

The good news is that the CDC and states have demonstrated a willingness to work together to fix the problems.

Mn coronavirus website: 3,689,184 with at least 1 dose as of 12-8.
CDC: 3,955,125 as of 12-11.
The CDC is making up numbers, reporting them, and willing to explain how and why their numbers are flawed.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3667 on: December 12, 2021, 10:06:52 AM »
The Trilateral Commission  has been pulling the strings for years!

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3668 on: December 12, 2021, 10:39:44 AM »
The Trilateral Commission  has been pulling the strings for years!

I thought it was The Illuminati!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3669 on: December 12, 2021, 10:48:02 PM »


watch out murph!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3670 on: December 13, 2021, 01:22:57 AM »
I've met such hippies. They're as dumb as you are.

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« Reply #3671 on: December 13, 2021, 11:34:55 AM »
I've met such hippies. They're as dumb as you are.

Super responsible hippies?  get outta here
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3672 on: December 13, 2021, 01:09:21 PM »


watch out murph!

Nobody who goes to Wisconsin can be labeled risk-averse

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3673 on: December 15, 2021, 08:13:48 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3674 on: December 15, 2021, 08:19:04 PM »
CNN, but I found it interesting.

How millions of jobless Americans can afford to ditch work

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/15/economy/labor-force-retirement-great-resignation/index.html
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