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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3510 on: December 01, 2021, 12:26:22 PM »
I wish I had the level of confidence some of you do that most of what we are shoveled by the media at large isn’t just whatever bullshit the world’s power brokers want us to see, hear and believe.

Hardly anyone has the ability to actually confirm or fact check almost anything we are told about a whole lot of topics.

And someone will sincerely say “But wait, we have all these online fact checkers!” while hilariously oblivious to the notion that the fact checkers are just ordinary people using google to check the information against the same source that fed it to us in the first place.

And any remnant of investigative journalism that’s still out there gets shut down when it gets too close to the truth. Or, labeled conspiracy theory. Or disappeared from social media.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3511 on: December 01, 2021, 12:28:28 PM »
I wish I had the level of confidence some of you do that most of what we are shoveled by the media at large isn’t just whatever bullshit the world’s power brokers want us to see, hear and believe.

Hardly anyone has the ability to actually confirm or fact check almost anything we are told about a whole lot of topics.

And someone will sincerely say “But wait, we have all these online fact checkers!” while hilariously oblivious to the notion that the fact checkers are just ordinary people using google to check the information against the same source that fed it to us in the first place.

And any remnant of investigative journalism that’s still out there gets shut down when it gets too close to the truth. Or, labeled conspiracy theory. Or disappeared from social media.

I just don't believe that the "power brokers" are some sort of satanic power cabal with omnipotent powers.

When this all collapses, I'll be less likely to blame news outlets (modulo FOX) than I will be likely to blame movies and TV in popular culture. Writers of screenplays put in all sorts of weird shit that is disconnected from reality that people blend into their worldview.

I can't quite remember the exact movie, think it was Mission Impossible. Ving Rhames has some electronics and it has the "prototype 686 chip" or something like that. This feeds into the narrative that there's some sort of super scientist with magical powers who has produced something that the public can't even fathom. The reality is that when we tape out a chip, we might get a couple dozen parts that barely work, and no way would we be just letting them be ferreted out of the bringup lab for some super secret military project, there are 200 people in the lab and you have to wait for your tiny sliver of time to work with the part. There are probably a few bugs in the part which will have to be worked around in the OS/drivers, which is presumably brand new for this part and still being developed. Any "super new" features probably aren't being exploited by software, the RTX ray tracing stuff we are shipping now has been in hardware for years, but it took a while for the software to be to the point where it could be used.

And those 200 people in the lab and the 3-4 thousand other people who worked on the chip are just regular joes who hope the stock price goes up so we can send our kid to college.

There's nothing magic to it. It's just a big complicated project that requires a lot of hard work and so many people on it that there is no way a conspiracy could occur without it blowing out. With that many people working on it, and standard rates of attrition, any nefarious plot would be an open secret very quickly.

Yet the public believes all sorts of weird shit. About chips, about epidemiology.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3512 on: December 01, 2021, 01:12:27 PM »
In summary:
1. Fart writes a lengthy conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.

2. Q97, the board's craziest member, adopts said theory in its entirety.

3. Judy, the board's dumbest member, agrees with all of it.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3513 on: December 01, 2021, 01:18:31 PM »
We need a catchy name for the Custard-QAnon97-Tempo axis....

How about the Alt-Bereft?

The cognitive dissonance the right suffers from is that they are actually for protecting billionaires and corporations and their right to own the political process. The right has no clue what they stand for outside of self-centeredness and manufactured outrage.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3514 on: December 01, 2021, 01:19:27 PM »
In summary:
1. Fart writes a lengthy conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.

2. Q97, the board's craziest member, adopts said theory in its entirety.

3. Judy, the board's dumbest member, agrees with all of it.

That seems like a fair assessment.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3517 on: December 01, 2021, 03:08:39 PM »
He was still at the point where enough Adderall could hide the COVID.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3518 on: December 01, 2021, 03:15:04 PM »
Didn't he also test negative around that time?
Yes. Within hours. However long it took to re-run the sample.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3519 on: December 01, 2021, 04:18:27 PM »
In summary:
1. Fart writes a lengthy conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.

2. Q97, the board's craziest member, adopts said theory in its entirety.

3. Judy, the board's dumbest member, agrees with all of it.

George Carlin also agreed. Many years ago.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3520 on: December 01, 2021, 04:53:00 PM »
George Carlin also agreed. Many years ago.

The Smothers Brothers getting yanked off the air might have influenced his thinking.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3521 on: December 01, 2021, 05:18:37 PM »
Here is an example. Climate change deniers love to bring up an alleged  old Time magazine article about a coming ice age. Lots of people alive then remember that.

It was actually Newsweek 1975. At the time, climate science was unsettled. It was known that co2 caused global warming. However, other pollutants were causing cooling. While the cooling was regional, this was not yet known. Some thought global cooling would win out over warming.

The same pollutants that caused cooling were also linked to immediate problems like smog, acid rain, burning rivers, dead fish, and so on. As a result, Nixon had signed clean air and water legislation and created the EPA several years before the Newsweek article appeared.

Are the climate deniers liars, or just a mix of biased and misinformed?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3522 on: December 01, 2021, 06:04:28 PM »
George Carlin also agreed. Many years ago.

Please don’t try to align yourself with George Carlin. He would in no way tolerate modern conservatives. He didn’t even like them 15 years ago.
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3523 on: December 01, 2021, 06:49:54 PM »
Please don’t try to align yourself with George Carlin. He would in no way tolerate modern conservatives. He didn’t even like them 15 years ago.

I would agree.  He would have eviscerated the Trumplicans.  I’d say Carlin was an anti-PC Marxist, or anarchist.  Take your pick.

One of my favorite Carlin quotes:
“...If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders.  Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans.  So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck.  Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public...”   





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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3524 on: December 01, 2021, 07:04:12 PM »
Is there a ban on travel out of California yet ?