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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #615 on: August 10, 2020, 01:48:20 PM »
Logan County Illinois was rolling along at less than ten total cases for a long time.

Then they decided to have a golf tournament in Lincoln, 2 weeks ago. Some dude flew up from Arizona for the tourney. It rained, everyone went to the bar.

County is now at 112 cases, which isn't a lot but has moved them up to the middle of the pack per capital in Illinois and their outbreak it just starting.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #616 on: August 10, 2020, 01:50:15 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 09, 2020, 06:38:05 PM
Quote from: ILLove1997 on August 09, 2020, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 09, 2020, 09:09:59 AM
These cats are probably correct in what needs to be done to get this over with...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/07/opinion/coronavirus-lockdown-unemployment-death.html

yeah lets not completely destroy the economy over a virus with a .25 IFR

because way more people in our own country and around the world will suffer if we do that

anyway off to the desert to get away from all the fucking idiots on this planet

Unsurprisingly you missed the point of the OP-ed. Sounds like the Big 5 power conferences are ready to throw in the towel for fall because we half assed the response instead of taking the short term pain to squash this thing. Now we are dragging it, and the accompanying economic pain, out. But hey, people are saving money per the article as the savings rate has jumped!

It’s really pathetic that Trump and many state governors decided to “half-ass” this thing.  American Exceptionalism! 

I don’t know if this makes sense, but here’s another approach for suppressing the virus outbreak, given our current sad state of affairs.   

Most of the coronavirus tests the U.S. does are worthless. But there's a solution that could actually work — and stop the spread.
https://news.yahoo.com/most-of-the-coronavirus-tests-the-us-does-are-worthless-but-theres-a-solution-that-could-actually-work-and-stop-the-spread-154815346.html

The problem is a rapid antigen testing approach would require federal and state leadership that believed in governing, expertise and data, not chaos, gaslighting and denial.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #617 on: August 10, 2020, 03:22:19 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 10, 2020, 01:36:20 PM
55% of people with acute symptomatic cases have some lingering effects. That seems pretty normal to me for anything “acute.” Meanwhile 40-45% are completely asymptomatic and sure children might carry it but are rarely susceptible.

Based on the available evidence of the dangers of COVID versus the known disadvantages of remote learning, local teachers unanimously chose in-person learning for this fall and the board echoed that decision. An optional remote learning program is available for parents or children who are uncomfortable attending school in person.

This, at its core, is the problem. Are informed decisions truly even possible at this point?  I'm not sure of the answer.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #618 on: August 10, 2020, 03:24:28 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 10, 2020, 01:36:20 PM
55% of people with acute symptomatic cases have some lingering effects. That seems pretty normal to me for anything “acute.” Meanwhile 40-45% are completely asymptomatic and sure children might carry it but are rarely susceptible.


Ok, so if we do nothing or take only minimal precautions and allow people to run amuck, what does that 55% translate to in a nation of 300+ million (and who is footing the bill) at the end of the day?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #619 on: August 10, 2020, 05:11:22 PM »
No one has said do nothing or take minimal precautions.

It’s a proven fact that remote learning and being at home like children have been isn’t good for them but let’s go down that road anyways because there *might* be something we don’t know about COVID despite it circulating for 8 months with minimal impact on children?

Definitely an interesting take.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #620 on: August 10, 2020, 07:01:00 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 10, 2020, 05:11:22 PM
No one has said do nothing or take minimal precautions.

It’s a proven fact that remote learning and being at home like children have been isn’t good for them but let’s go down that road anyways because there *might* be something we don’t know about COVID despite it circulating for 8 months with minimal impact on children?

Definitely an interesting take.

The fact is we have done the bare minimum and it has gotten us where we are.

I have zero problem returning kids to schools if they are wearing masks and proper.distancing and cleaning protocols are followed. The problem is actually making them wear the masks. The adults in charge appear to have a problem enforcing it, if not doing it themselves.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #621 on: August 10, 2020, 08:45:30 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 10, 2020, 05:11:22 PM
No one has said do nothing or take minimal precautions.

It’s a proven fact that remote learning and being at home like children have been isn’t good for them but let’s go down that road anyways because there *might* be something we don’t know about COVID despite it circulating for 8 months with minimal impact on children?

Definitely an interesting take.

this is definitely someone out in the stands trying to be the head coach.

As a parent right now - it's not going to be Trump or any Governor who decides if there will be school going on in person anywhere in September. It will be the teachers. You can't learn remote or in person without a teacher. My son's school is seeing a lot of retirements or people going the private tutor route. Expect this to accelerate now that the various schools that are open are seeing cases spike, or just teachers seeing that the children are uncontrollable and say "screw this"
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #622 on: August 10, 2020, 08:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Custard on August 10, 2020, 01:36:20 PM
An optional remote learning program is available for parents or children who are uncomfortable attending school in person.

This is such a bullshit take.

It's not that I'm uncomfortable sending my kid to school. I'm uncomfortable with *anyone* sending their kid to school because it keeps this pandemic rolling.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #624 on: August 10, 2020, 09:42:15 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #629 on: August 11, 2020, 11:56:51 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on August 11, 2020, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: Mn on August 11, 2020, 09:50:56 AM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/ten-experts-nih-covid-19-panel-have-ties-companies-involved-coronavirus

Goggling indicates a 30 member panel.

Was.wondering where John Solomon went....good to know.

I see that anti-vaxxer Sharyl Attkisson works there too. 
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