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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3090 on: October 08, 2021, 11:08:17 PM »
Something from the NYT for all you virtue signalers here especially Jobu the biggest virtue signaler of them all !

“The September swoon
In the final weeks of this summer, with Covid-19 cases soaring and the rituals of autumn about to resume, many people assumed that the pandemic was on the verge of getting even worse.

Children were returning to classrooms five days a week. Broadway was reopening, and movie fans were heading to theaters again. In football stadiums across the country, fans were crowding together, usually unmasked, to cheer, sing and drink.

Given all of this — and the Delta variant — public discussion had a decidedly grim tone as the summer wound down. “It may only get worse,” read a Politico headline. “The new school year is already a disaster,” Business Insider reported.

The Washington Post cited an estimate that daily caseloads in the U.S. could reach 300,000 in August, higher than ever before. An expert quoted in The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette suggested the number could be higher yet. In The New York Times, an epidemiologist predicted that cases would rise in September because children were going back to school.

And what actually happened? Cases plunged.

The best measure of U.S. cases (a seven-day average, adjusted for holiday anomalies) peaked around 166,000 on Sept. 1 — the very day that seemed to augur a new surge. The number of new daily cases has since fallen almost 40 percent. Hospitalizations are down about 30 percent. Deaths, which typically change direction a few weeks after cases, have declined 13 percent since Sept. 20.

To be fair, forecasting a pandemic is inherently difficult. Virtually all of us, expert and not, have at times been surprised by Covid and incorrect about what was likely to happen next. It’s unavoidable.

But there is a pattern to some of the recent mistakes, and understanding it can help us avoid repeating them.

Clutch chokers
Let’s start by recalling a near-universal human trait: People are attracted to stories with heroes and villains. In these stories, the character flaws of the villains bring them down, allowing the decency of the heroes to triumph. The stories create a clear relationship between cause and effect. They make sense.

Books, television shows and movies are full of such stories. But for the purposes of understanding Covid, another form of mass entertainment — sports — is more useful.

Unlike novels or movies, sporting events involve true uncertainty. They are not part of a fictional world, with an author’s predetermined ending. And as is the case with more important subjects, like a pandemic, sports are subject to a lot of predictions. For these reasons, social scientists, including Nobel laureates, sometimes study sports to learn lessons about the human mind.

If you turn on almost any sporting event, you will hear tales of heroes and villains. Sports broadcasters often use moralistic language — with concepts like “clutch” and “choke” — to explain outcomes. The broadcasters turn games into “referenda on character,” as Joe Sheehan, who writes an excellent baseball newsletter, has put it. The athletes with strong character win, and the weak lose.

But anybody who watches sports for long enough will notice that these morality plays do not age well. Many athletes or coaches whom broadcasters long described as chokers (Clayton Kershaw, Andy Reid, Phil Mickelson, Alex Rodriguez, John Elway, Jana Novotná, Hakeem Olajuwon, Dan Jansen and many more) eventually won championships with clutch performances.

They did not have character flaws that prevented them from winning. They had been unlucky, or they had run into better competition. Until they didn’t.

The real world often does not lend itself to moralistic fables.


Vaccines and humility
In the case of Covid, the fable we tell ourselves is that our day-to-day behavior dictates the course of the pandemic. When we are good — by staying socially distant and wearing our masks — cases are supposed to fall. When we are bad — by eating in restaurants, hanging out with friends and going to a theater or football game — cases are supposed to rise.

The idea is especially alluring to anybody making an effort to be careful and feeling frustrated that so many other Americans seem blasé. After all, the Covid fable does have an some truth to it. Social distancing and masking do reduce the spread of the virus. They just are not as powerful as people often imagine.

The main determinants of Covid’s spread (other than vaccines, which are extremely effective) remain mysterious. Some activities that seem dangerous, like in-person school or crowded outdoor gatherings, may not always be. As unsatisfying as it is, we do not know why cases have recently plunged. The decline is consistent with the fact that Covid surges often last for about two months before receding, but that’s merely a description of the data, not a causal explanation.

“We still are really in the cave ages in terms of understanding how viruses emerge, how they spread, how they start and stop, why they do what they do,” Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota, has told me.

In coming weeks and months, it is possible that the virus will surge again, maybe because of a new variant or because vaccine immunity will wane. It is also possible that the population has built up enough immunity — from both vaccines and previous infections — that Delta will have been the last major wave.

We don’t know, and we do not have to pretend otherwise. We do not have to treat Covid as a facile referendum on virtue.”
They all died, nobody left to infect

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3092 on: October 12, 2021, 07:52:54 AM »
Tempo, Ray, Alum, Smurph, McLassie: Raging FOR the machine since 2020 !!!

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3093 on: October 12, 2021, 08:43:30 AM »


Think you put this in the wrong spot.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3094 on: October 12, 2021, 11:58:59 AM »
Not sure this fits the narrative of a few here....

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-us-jobs-employers-20211012-zau5ydplo5fh7pf46jahvnvjqi-story.html

Americans quit their jobs at a record pace in August
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3095 on: October 12, 2021, 12:38:47 PM »
anyone notice a trend here?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3096 on: October 12, 2021, 04:19:31 PM »
Mn! Don't start taking baby aspirin!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/12/health/daily-aspirin-heart-disease-stroke-draft-recommendation-wellness/index.html

US task force proposes adults 60 and older should not start daily aspirin to prevent heart disease or stroke

Hopefully you haven't started!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3097 on: October 12, 2021, 04:26:27 PM »
anyone notice a trend here?



And now for the rest of the story…

COVID vaccine immunity is waning — how much does that matter?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02532-4

The game is not yet over, and vaccines still matter: Lessons from a study on Israel’s COVID-19 vaccination
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2021/09/13/the-game-is-not-yet-over-and-vaccines-still-matter-lessons-from-a-study-on-israels-covid-19-vaccination/


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3098 on: October 12, 2021, 05:09:22 PM »
Mn! Don't start taking baby aspirin!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/12/health/daily-aspirin-heart-disease-stroke-draft-recommendation-wellness/index.html

US task force proposes adults 60 and older should not start daily aspirin to prevent heart disease or stroke

Hopefully you haven't started!
Oh, jfc.
Do not do anything but get vaxxed, wear 2 masks, and hide in the basement. Do not lose weight. Do not take Vit D or go outdoors where it's dangerous. Do not get diabetes under control. Do not do anything until getting admitted. Then cross your fingers.
This is why CNN posted this .....
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/aspirin-lowers-risk-of-covid-new-findings-support-preliminary-israeli-trial-681127

"The treatment reduced the risk of reaching mechanical ventilation by 44%. ICU admissions were lower by 43%, and an overall in-hospital mortality saw a 47% decrease."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3099 on: October 12, 2021, 05:25:20 PM »
Oh, jfc.
Do not do anything but get vaxxed, wear 2 masks, and hide in the basement. Do not lose weight. Do not take Vit D or go outdoors where it's dangerous. Do not get diabetes under control. Do not do anything until getting admitted. Then cross your fingers.
This is why CNN posted this .....
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/aspirin-lowers-risk-of-covid-new-findings-support-preliminary-israeli-trial-681127

"The treatment reduced the risk of reaching mechanical ventilation by 44%. ICU admissions were lower by 43%, and an overall in-hospital mortality saw a 47% decrease."

Does eating red meat protect you from The COVID?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3100 on: October 12, 2021, 06:34:12 PM »
Does eating red meat protect you from The COVID?
As long as I put my 2 masks on between bites, it's worked so far.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3101 on: October 14, 2021, 12:15:58 PM »
As long as I put my 2 masks on between bites, it's worked so far.
How's that help the whole "lose weight" part?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3102 on: October 14, 2021, 12:42:14 PM »
How's that help the whole "lose weight" part?

ever hear of the carnivore diet?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3103 on: October 14, 2021, 01:40:25 PM »
Rob, this appears to be inching closer to Q97....Get the shot to screw Rob over, 97!

https://theweek.com/coronavirus/1006016/covid-19-was-the-no-1-killer-of-americans-aged-35-to-54-last-month-and-no-2

COVID-19 was the No. 1 killer of Americans age 35 to 54 last month, and No. 2 overall
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3104 on: October 14, 2021, 01:48:57 PM »
No! Don't get it!