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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #390 on: June 25, 2020, 08:00:20 PM »
Houston, we have a problem.

Wondering if I had that power since I started the topic.
I believe that is the case

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #391 on: June 25, 2020, 08:54:19 PM »
This is an interesting development:

Senate Republicans Warm to Another Round of Stimulus

"Republican senators have been cool toward “Phase IV” legislation providing economic relief and stimulus. They did not want to be in the position of passing something in May or June only to face demand for a Phase V bill in August; and they wanted to see how the economy was recovering before passing anything."

"They think enough time has passed to ensure that they won’t have to pass expensive bill after bill before the election. They’re facing rising pressure to do something. And bad polling for Republicans up and down the ticket is concentrating minds. So it looks like they’re going to try to pass a bill next month. The most contentious issues, it seems pretty likely, will be (1) whether to scale back unemployment-insurance levels and (2) how much aid to give states and localities, and with what strings."

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/senate-republicans-warm-to-phase-iv/

I wouldn’t mind seeing some relief funds set aside for infrastructure projects at the local level.  It would produce jobs and construction work tends to be outdoors, which would be a safer work environment (relatively speaking).   

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #392 on: June 25, 2020, 10:32:04 PM »
I would tend to agree
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #393 on: June 26, 2020, 10:53:30 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #394 on: June 26, 2020, 12:56:09 PM »
This is an interesting development:

Senate Republicans Warm to Another Round of Stimulus

"Republican senators have been cool toward “Phase IV” legislation providing economic relief and stimulus. They did not want to be in the position of passing something in May or June only to face demand for a Phase V bill in August; and they wanted to see how the economy was recovering before passing anything."

"They think enough time has passed to ensure that they won’t have to pass expensive bill after bill before the election. They’re facing rising pressure to do something. And bad polling for Republicans up and down the ticket is concentrating minds. So it looks like they’re going to try to pass a bill next month. The most contentious issues, it seems pretty likely, will be (1) whether to scale back unemployment-insurance levels and (2) how much aid to give states and localities, and with what strings."

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/senate-republicans-warm-to-phase-iv/

I wouldn’t mind seeing some relief funds set aside for infrastructure projects at the local level.  It would produce jobs and construction work tends to be outdoors, which would be a safer work environment (relatively speaking).

That would make way too much sense but the construction industry seems to be holding up decently at the moment at least, those poor liberal arts majors working the wendella boat tour better get ready to do some actual hard labor lol
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #395 on: June 27, 2020, 05:03:22 PM »
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Bartik-et-al-conference-draft.pdf

Measuring the labor market at the onset of the COVID-19 crisis*
Alexander W. Bartik, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Marianne Bertrand, University of Chicago
Feng Lin, University of Chicago
Jesse Rothstein, University of California, Berkeley†
Matthew Unrath, University of California, Berkeley
June 2020
Abstract

We use traditional and non-traditional data sources to measure the collapse and subsequent partial recovery of the U.S. labor market in Spring 2020. Using daily data on hourly workers in small businesses, we show that the collapse was extremely sudden -- nearly all of the decline in hours of work occurred between March 14 and March 28. Both traditional and non-traditional data show that, in contrast to past recessions, this recession was driven by low-wage services, particularly the retail and leisure and hospitality sectors. A large share of the job loss in small businesses reflected firms that closed entirely. Nevertheless, the vast majority of laid off workers expected, at least early in the crisis, to be recalled, and indeed many of the businesses have reopened and rehired their former employees. There was a reallocation component to the firm closures, with elevated risk of closure at firms that were already unhealthy, and more reopening of the healthier firms. At the worker-level, more disadvantaged workers (less educated, non-white) were more likely to be laid off and less likely to be rehired. Worker expectations were strongly predictive of rehiring probabilities. Turning to policies, shelter-in-place orders drove some job losses but only a small share: many of the losses had already occurred when the orders went into effect. Last, we find that
states that received more small business loans from the Paycheck Protection Program and states with more generous unemployment insurance benefits had milder declines and faster recoveries. We find no evidence so far in support of the view that high UI replacement rates drove job losses or slowed rehiring substantially.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #396 on: June 27, 2020, 05:11:58 PM »
Is there anything contained in there that isn’t common sense?

Plagues, hyenas, and recessions always pick off the weak and vulnerable.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #397 on: June 27, 2020, 05:57:57 PM »
Is there anything contained in there that isn’t common sense?

Plagues, hyenas, and recessions always pick off the weak and vulnerable.

"Turning to policies, shelter-in-place orders drove some job losses but only a small share: many of the losses had already occurred when the orders went into effect."

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #398 on: June 27, 2020, 05:59:00 PM »
I try to give Custard 2 "applauds" and I get this:

"Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 1 hours."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #399 on: June 27, 2020, 08:38:15 PM »
Scientists just beginning to understand the many health problems caused by COVID-19

"Scientists are only starting to grasp the vast array of health problems caused by the novel coronavirus, some of which may have lingering effects on patients and health systems for years to come, according to doctors and infectious disease experts."

“’We thought this was only a respiratory virus. Turns out, it goes after the pancreas. It goes after the heart. It goes after the liver, the brain, the kidney and other organs. We didn’t appreciate that in the beginning,’ said Dr. Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California.”

“In addition to respiratory distress, patients with COVID-19 can experience blood clotting disorders that can lead to strokes, and extreme inflammation that attacks multiple organ systems. The virus can also cause neurological complications that range from headache, dizziness and loss of taste or smell to seizures and confusion.”

“And recovery can be slow, incomplete and costly, with a huge impact on quality of life.  The broad and diverse manifestations of COVID-19 are somewhat unique, said Dr. Sadiya Khan, a cardiologist at Northwestern Medicine in Chicago.”

“With influenza, people with underlying heart conditions are also at higher risk of complications,’ Khan said. What is surprising this virus is the extent of the complications occurring outside the lungs.  Khan believes there will be a huge healthcare expenditure and burden for individuals who have survived COVID-19.”

“While much of the focus has been on the minority of patients who experience severe disease, doctors increasingly are looking to the needs of patients who were not sick enough to require hospitalization, but are still suffering months after first becoming infected.”

“Studies are just getting underway to understand the long-term effects of infection, Jay Butler, deputy director of infectious diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters in a telephone briefing on Thursday.”

"While coronavirus symptoms typically resolve in two or three weeks, an estimated 1 in 10 experience prolonged symptoms, Dr. Helen Salisbury of the University of Oxford wrote in the British Medical Journal on Tuesday."

“Dr. Igor Koralnik, chief of neuro-infectious diseases at Northwestern Medicine, reviewed current scientific literature and found about half of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 had neurological complications, such as dizziness, decreased alertness, difficulty concentrating, disorders of smell and taste, seizures, strokes, weakness and muscle pain.”

“Koralnik, whose findings were published in the Annals of Neurology, has started an outpatient clinic for COVID-19 patients to study whether these neurological problems are temporary or permanent.”

"Khan sees parallels with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Much of the early focus was on deaths. ‘In recent years, we’ve been very focused on the cardiovascular complications of HIV survivorship,’ Khan said.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-effects/scientists-just-beginning-to-understand-the-many-health-problems-caused-by-covid-19-idUSKBN23X1BZ

Stay tuned. 

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #400 on: June 27, 2020, 10:27:01 PM »
Is there anything contained in there that isn’t common sense?

Plagues, hyenas, and recessions always pick off the weak and vulnerable.

"Turning to policies, shelter-in-place orders drove some job losses but only a small share: many of the losses had already occurred when the orders went into effect."

This also strikes me as common sense. I remember sitting in a restaurant on the last night they were going to be open to the public. I shared this story here before but the wait staff was all getting shitfaced because they had kids to take care of and no hours coming in “until April 1.” This was downstate, prior to Illinois’ shelter-in-place order. That restaurant is just now back to allowing limited numbers of patrons inside again.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #401 on: June 28, 2020, 05:33:27 PM »
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. The statistics DO NOT support this enormous shut down. This is a political scheme and it’s insane. End of story.
Ted Nugent knocks it out of the park:
“Why do I have to stay home just because 𝘆𝗼𝘂 are scared? How about 𝘆𝗼𝘂 stay home....𝘆𝗼𝘂 stay in 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 house indefinitely, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 wear a mask, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 socially distance yourself from me, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 avoid restaurants, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 avoid baseball games, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 stay off the roads, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 avoid malls and beaches and parks, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 believe the made up death numbers, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 believe the media hype, 𝘆𝗼𝘂 get your toxic vaccine while avoiding vitamin C, sunshine and the things God gave us to actually heal,
I'm done playing 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 dumb game. We are not “all in this together.” I'm not wearing 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 dumb tin foil hat anymore. I’m no longer going to be a prisoner of your fear. I'm no longer staying in my house or catering to 𝘆𝗼𝘂 because 𝘆𝗼𝘂 are scared. I'm not wearing a mask and I'm not staying 6 feet away from you anymore because I'm not afraid of you. You are not my enemy and if I get sick, it's not because of 𝘆𝗼𝘂, it's because of me and my system, which not only have I been addressing for quite some time, but I also know how to treat if I get sick.
This virus (or whatever it is) is already circulating. Millions of people have already encountered it, as it's been circulating around the world probably since last September. You WILL have to confront this thing, if you haven’t already. There is no way around it, unless you lock yourself up in your house and it somehow doesn't manage to hop on some mail or some groceries that you ordered online.
𝗬𝗢𝗨𝗥 fear is not an excuse to destroy America. 𝗬𝗢𝗨𝗥 fear is not my fear and your fear does not have the right to interfere with my life, my job, my income or my future as a free American citizen. So if you're scared, you can just put your tin foil hat on, or even wrap foil all around your whole body - or around your whole house if you wish - but please keep your fear contained to your little corner of the world and don't contaminate me or my family or my Country.”
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #402 on: June 28, 2020, 06:39:37 PM »
TL;DR
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
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