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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #315 on: June 18, 2020, 09:07:02 PM »
Who fucked up the board and made it Shitty?! They completely changed the mobile format and this one sucks
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #316 on: June 18, 2020, 09:34:54 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on June 18, 2020, 09:07:02 PM
Who fucked up the board and made it Shitty?! They completely changed the mobile format and this one sucks
Wrong thread, Judge
But I prefer the old version.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #317 on: June 19, 2020, 02:00:02 PM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #318 on: June 19, 2020, 02:28:44 PM »
Illinois is seeing fewer cases with a less steep curve on deaths.

Nevada’s case total is rapidly rising and its death toll is rapidly falling.

Indicating more testing of people who aren’t seriously ill or ill at all?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #319 on: June 19, 2020, 06:21:48 PM »
Why More Testing Doesn't Explain the Rise in COVID-19 in Several New U.S. Hotspots

“Testing is much more widely available today than it was a month ago, as are data on the number of tests administered (the latter thanks to the COVID Tracking Project). At the same time, many states are reporting a surge in new infections, sometimes reversing previously encouraging downward trends. The White House has suggested that this these new spikes in daily case rates are due entirely to more testing—which inevitably captures more cases. But many public health experts disagree, arguing that this is actually a sign of an organic second wave hitting the U.S.”

“More testing does, in fact, turn up more cases. However, if widespread testing was the entire reason for the rise in cases, you’d expect the share of positive tests to go down, or, at the very least, remain steady. Instead, that figure is rising in a number of states. Nowhere is this more apparent than in Arizona, Texas and Florida, where you can see a clear uptick in the percentage of tests that come back positive, even as the total number of tests grows.”
https://time.com/5854572/covid-19-testing-florida-texas-arizona/

Arizona:

“The number of cases reported in Arizona has been rising at a faster rate than testing has increased, indicating community spread, since the state’s stay-at-home order expired last month.   For the over 391,000 PCR tests given for active infections in the state, including 12,476 reported Friday, the positive rate increased to 9.5%, as the upward trend accelerates. It was 9.1% on Wednesday and 6.7% on May 31.”
https://ktar.com/story/3284314/arizona-reports-more-than-3000-new-coronavirus-cases-a-daily-high/

Florida:   

“However, despite the increase in the number of tests being administered each day in Florida, the percent of people with positive test results has also increased. In fact, it has doubled since early June.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/19/arizona-and-florida-report-record-high-single-day-increases-in-coronavirus-cases.html

Good news for Arizona.  The Governor announced that local governments will be allowed to set their own rules on the use of face masks.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/06/19/phoenix-require-mask-other-face-covering-starting-saturday/3219102001/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #320 on: June 19, 2020, 06:43:06 PM »
Quote from: Custard on June 19, 2020, 02:28:44 PM
Illinois is seeing fewer cases with a less steep curve on deaths.

Nevada’s case total is rapidly rising and its death toll is rapidly falling.

Indicating more testing of people who aren’t seriously ill or ill at all?
Deaths lag cases - we try to save people and some times after a while they die anyway
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #321 on: June 20, 2020, 12:40:11 AM »
Appears we are building herd immunity with relatively minimal consequences, all things considered. But it’s definitely a good opportunity to lambaste the red states for flaunting the guidelines.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #322 on: June 20, 2020, 09:46:26 AM »
Quote from: Custard on June 20, 2020, 12:40:11 AM
Appears we are building herd immunity with relatively minimal consequences, all things considered. But it’s definitely a good opportunity to lambaste the red states for flaunting the guidelines.

We can hope you are correct, but a) the NYT had an article about a study claiming immunity in some instances only lasts for weeks and b) we do not know the long term impact of the effects of the virus.

Met up with a guy I know yesterday at the local dive bar. Guy is in his 50s, runner, fit guy. Said he had the COVID and was in bed for 13 days straight.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #323 on: June 20, 2020, 02:41:35 PM »
Quote from: Custard on June 20, 2020, 12:40:11 AM
Appears we are building herd immunity with relatively minimal consequences, all things considered. But it’s definitely a good opportunity to lambaste the red states for flaunting the guidelines.

According to the experts, there are open questions with herd immunity and its viability as a strategy for dealing with the coronavirus.   

The long journey to herd immunity
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-herd-immunity-vaccine-dcac9bcb-2514-44b1-9ab0-4c459a21fcad.html

Can herd immunity help stop the coronavirus? Experts warn it's not that easy
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/can-herd-immunity-help-stop-coronavirus-experts-warn-it-s-n1207351

Herd immunity won’t solve our COVID-19 problem
https://theconversation.com/herd-immunity-wont-solve-our-covid-19-problem-139724

It also doesn’t matter that the coronavirus hotspots are occurring in red, blue or purple states.  Hot take: the virus doesn’t care about politics or geography.  The point is the virus is spreading in some communities (based on positive test rates) since states lifted their shelter-in-place orders.  High-risk behavior combined with inadequate containment measures seems to be the recipe for an outbreak.

And how is the medical community and front-line health care workers in those communities responding to the growing number of cases.  Are they talking about how “we’re building herd immunity?”  I don’t think so.  Are they trying to embarrass or call out their government officials based on politics or party affiliation?  Nope.   

These medical professionals are concerned about the growing health risk the virus poses to people living in their community.  They are urging state and local officials to basically do two things to contain the virus surge: set rules for the use of face masks when people are out in public and work with businesses and institutions to put more emphasis on social distancing measures, contact tracing and hand sanitizer stations.   

Here’s a few citations:

Nearly 1,000 members of Arizona's medical community have signed on to letters pressing the state to require face masks in public, citing a recent spike in COVID-19 cases and record numbers of hospitalizations.   "Since the reopening of Arizona’s economy, our health risk has drastically increased ... many Arizonans believe something has changed, and it is somehow now safe to resume normal life," health professionals wrote in Monday's letter.   "Sadly, this is far from the truth."  "By wearing masks, we can curtail a huge surge of COVID-19 cases in Arizona and reduce unnecessary mortality in our community."
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2020/06/16/coronavirus-arizona-medical-community-asks-doug-ducey-covid-19-mask-mandate/3201637001/
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/nearly-700-medical-providers-sign-letter-urging-governor-ducey-to-mandate-masks-in-public

Jackson Hospital pulmonologist William Saliski "The units are full with critically-ill COVID patients," Saliski said.  He said hospitals are able to manage for now, but it's not sustainable. "This mask slows that down, 95% protection from something as easy as cloth. ... If this continues the way it's going, we will be overrun." 
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/2020/06/16/montgomery-council-votes-down-mask-ordinance-doctors-disgust/3203300001/

The president of the Florida Medical Association on Friday advised local governments to require the use of masks in public as coronavirus cases continue to rise.   “The science is clear.  Asymptomatic infected individuals can release infectious aerosol particles while breathing and speaking.”  “The message is simple: For the sake of your health and the health of everyone around you, Florida’s doctors want you to wear a mask.”
https://www.bradenton.com/news/coronavirus/article243681522.html
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #324 on: June 20, 2020, 05:03:47 PM »
I can find 40 articles as well that downplay the risk. Everyone wants to be cautionary to avoid liability and keep everyone on the puppet strings and on the cusp of constant panic.

I have made it known I live in a rural area. Our golf club opened up May 13. The only difference versus normal is that there is some foam in the cups to keep the ball up and most of us putt with the flag in as directed. This past week our opponent asked it to be taken out when he putted because he “didn’t give a shit.”

Everyone is sharing carts and going inside and using the restrooms and sitting at the bar or the tables both inside and outside, shaking hands after rounds. I was in 4-5 businesses today and saw 1 mask-wearer.

There are quite a few people that work there and 44 guys just in our league alone and there are 3 other leagues. The club is semi private so others come and go too.

Local restaurants and bars have started letting people in. I went by a bar/grill today there must have been 75 motorcycles and 25 Jeeps lined up along the highway. All those people were jammed into a tent with a couple flaps open so a breeze could blow through.

All of this is anecdotal but is of interest because I haven’t seen one shred of evidence yet that this change in behavior has changed anything other than made people happy to get back to a normalish routine.

People at Walmart and the other grocery stores and such have pretty much all quit wearing masks the last few weeks. If there’s a massive spike in hospitalizations and deaths of course it will have been a terrible mistake.

I’m pretty optimistic that won’t be the case. Seems a lot of people are going to great lengths to play this out as something much worse than it actually is, which seems odd to me. Shouldn’t we be happy?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #325 on: June 20, 2020, 06:34:09 PM »
I won't be happy until Fart quits hedging and blossoms into a full blown Covid Truther.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #326 on: June 20, 2020, 07:26:22 PM »
I think we are both free thinkers who choose to live life on our own terms as much as possible. I usually try to reconcile what I’ve been told with what I observe in order to come to an opinion on a given topic.

My opinions are almost always fluid dependent on new information and observations, and my understanding of their relationship to one another.

As of right now there seem to be some gaping holes in what passes for the official story of this pandemic and it’s supposed severity. Our government and media has a history of never letting a crisis go to waste, and I think this is almost certainly another example of that. To what degree I am uncertain.

Was it good to be cautious? Yes, in my opinion. 

Was it good to respect others and stay home whenever possible and wear a mask when out? Yes, in my opinion.

Has this had a terrible impact on people across the globe? Yes, that’s a fact.

Should we close everything down every time a novel virus appears? I don’t believe so, but the precedent has kind of been set.

Have a lot of people been crying wolf in this country for 3.5 months when the wolf seems to be more akin to a house dog with rabies? Yes, in my opinion.

Had this been used as a political football to the point of sickening excess? Yes, in my opinion.

Do I know vastly more vulnerable people that have been economically devastated or severely damaged than have been impacted by the actual virus? Yes, exponentially, without question.

I have always applauded your frugal and minimalist lifestyle, reusing and repurposing and literally consuming other folks’ castoff goods and foods.

I think you probably know as well as I do that COVID-19 is probably the 9/11 of this era. Yet I also realize you have an unspoken obligation to stand in solidarity with your fellow moral high ground seeking, virtue signaling, dazzling Urbanites.





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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #327 on: June 20, 2020, 09:33:05 PM »
Well, I also have immediate family in the healthcare industry.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #328 on: June 20, 2020, 10:19:16 PM »
I realize this is a sensitive topic and I try to empathize with everyone’s unique take on it.

I do not have immediate family in the healthcare industry.

Three of my best friends are married to women who work in the healthcare industry and my attorney’s husband is an ER doctor in Chicago.

Their feedback has shaped my opinion as it currently exists.

I’d imagine that there are as many anecdotes and opinions as there are people in the profession.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #329 on: June 21, 2020, 01:52:28 AM »
Custard = Doug Ducey is a match?
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