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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2310 on: June 07, 2021, 02:14:51 PM »
Non-political scientists said people should wear a mask and social distance.

Democrats said, “Hey, let’s listen to the scientists, since they are the only ones who actually know WTF they’re talking about.”

Republicans saw an opportunity to make basic human decency and simple disease prevention techniques an issue of “freedom” for political points.

Yes, it was absolutely the Republicans who made this a political issue.

RNC Hid $14k Mask Purchases

“A federal disclosure report appears to show that the Republican National Committee bought thousands of dollars worth of face masks to protect against the spread of COVID-19, but hid the purchase, labeling it as a ‘building maintenance’ expense.”
https://hillreporter.com/rnc-hid-14k-mask-purchase-while-donald-trump-spread-anti-mask-sentiment-74349

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2311 on: June 07, 2021, 09:57:07 PM »
I see - it's not the Republicans, it's all them dumb mexicans.

All those dumb mexicans died in the meat packing plants in Minnesota and South Dakota because they were just too damn dumb, not because their rich white employers didn't give a crap.

Sonoma County is 26% Hispanic. 90%+ work in front line jobs - mostly agriculture. 65 deaths per 100k, Kern is 155

Sonoma County full Vaccination rate - 53%
Kern County Vaccination rate - 29%

The hispanic population in Sonoma County has a massive vaccination rate - most wineries had vaccination drives on site - basically "hey everyone, take a break, come over here and get your vaccine. If you end up feeling unwell after, take a day off".  Were the Resnicks doing that? Unlikely.

Most of the Nine Cities had evening and weekend vaccination sites with heavy hispanic outreach because much of the hispanic population cannot make it to clinics during the business hours that the hispanic population is in large part at work. They did heavy outreach to make it clear there was no cost, since much of the hispanic population is non/under insured.

Additionally, Sonoma County (and the whole bay area) did huge vaccination outreach to the homeless population, my cycling club is mostly retired folks so they did a lot of the volunteer manpower for that effort. That's a really hard problem because a lot of the homeless population is so messed up that documentation is very scattered.

This isn't about the individuals in those counties per se, it comes down to leadership, which is a function of the primarily white voters who put the local leadership into place, in both counties.
I've dealt with plenty of Hispanics. I've always viewed them as hard working and honest. If you want to refer to them as dumb, that's your prerogative.
Nonetheless, Hispanics have been hit by coronavirus disproportionately hard.
Minnesota and South Dakota meat-packing plant issues were from early in the pandemic.
I thought you were comparing Pelosi's district vs McCarthy's. Then it was Kern county. Now it's Sonoma county.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2312 on: June 07, 2021, 10:40:49 PM »
I've dealt with plenty of Hispanics. I've always viewed them as hard working and honest. If you want to refer to them as dumb, that's your prerogative.
Nonetheless, Hispanics have been hit by coronavirus disproportionately hard.
Minnesota and South Dakota meat-packing plant issues were from early in the pandemic.
I thought you were comparing Pelosi's district vs McCarthy's. Then it was Kern county. Now it's Sonoma county.

I thought they required all Illinois students to take Rhetoric. The "dumb Mexicans" was written to put the words into your mouth, as you indicated that Kern County has bad covid numbers because of the Hispanic population, after I attributed it to leadership, personified in the form of Kevin McCarthy, the Representative of CA-23, which is for all intents and purposes Kern County.

I made a comparison of Pelosi's district vs McCarthy's as an example of leadership. When *you* changed the focus to imply that it has nothing to do with leadership, but the Hispanic population, I gave a counter example of a County which has a high Hispanic population but which has not had the same high COVID numbers seen in Kern. Your implication that it's a function of race, not leadership, is countered by that data - and data that shows that COVID numbers track very closely nationwide with the percentages that Trump received in the election, regardless of racial demographic.

As for me swapping from Pelosi's district to Sonoma County, which is primarily within Jared Huffman's district, Huffman is *way* to left of Pelosi, making the point more valid, not less.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2313 on: June 07, 2021, 10:49:12 PM »
Huh. I thought it was Mike Thompson.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2314 on: June 08, 2021, 12:04:18 AM »
Lot of rhetorical finger pointing here between the 3 of you. We have a Mexican Standoff!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2315 on: June 09, 2021, 08:13:33 AM »
Site has now been vaccinated
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2316 on: June 09, 2021, 08:18:36 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2317 on: June 09, 2021, 09:54:01 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2318 on: June 09, 2021, 10:02:22 AM »
I thought they required all Illinois students to take Rhetoric. The "dumb Mexicans" was written to put the words into your mouth, as you indicated that Kern County has bad covid numbers because of the Hispanic population, after I attributed it to leadership, personified in the form of Kevin McCarthy, the Representative of CA-23, which is for all intents and purposes Kern County.

I made a comparison of Pelosi's district vs McCarthy's as an example of leadership. When *you* changed the focus to imply that it has nothing to do with leadership, but the Hispanic population, I gave a counter example of a County which has a high Hispanic population but which has not had the same high COVID numbers seen in Kern. Your implication that it's a function of race, not leadership, is countered by that data - and data that shows that COVID numbers track very closely nationwide with the percentages that Trump received in the election, regardless of racial demographic.

As for me swapping from Pelosi's district to Sonoma County, which is primarily within Jared Huffman's district, Huffman is *way* to left of Pelosi, making the point more valid, not less.
From the CDC re demographics and mortality and censusreporter re demographics.
Pelosi's district is 32% Asian and 22% Hispanic.
McCarthy's district is 5% Asian and 41% Hispanic
I don't believe I implied that it had nothing to do with leadership. Hispanics, blacks, the aged, the obese and diabetics have elevated mortality risk factors.
Or are you just pissed that McCarthy said Fauci needs to go ?









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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2319 on: June 09, 2021, 10:16:33 AM »
Mn turning into Alum74 Lite! Needs more links!
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2321 on: June 09, 2021, 11:34:52 AM »
97 just throwing BP for Murph, MiniDitka, and Alum these days.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2322 on: June 09, 2021, 12:56:43 PM »
There is no shortage of science worshippers who don’t understand the scientific method either
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2323 on: June 09, 2021, 01:08:00 PM »
Huh. I thought it was Mike Thompson.
The county is split, Thompson has a chunk of East County, they City of Sonoma and a lot of Santa Rosa, Huffman has the rest

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2324 on: June 09, 2021, 01:20:08 PM »
Nice try. 

How Conspiracy Theorists Get the Scientific Method Wrong
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