WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #225 on: May 19, 2020, 07:59:22 AM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on May 19, 2020, 02:15:36 AM

That's cool, won't shade it, but I can fade 20 bucks to go have Greg cut my hair, he's a good guy. I grow my own fruits and veggies, fix my home appliances, design the processors in my computer. Everyone has their own skillz.

I just don't like sitting in a barber shop that much. Mine was never as entertaining as Arsenio and Eddie made it seem.

Plus, it's 15 minutes instead of an hour. More time for dumpster diving. (I found a couple of processors the other day.)

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #226 on: May 19, 2020, 02:07:52 PM »

Trump Campaign Threatens TV Stations That Air Ad Critical Of President
Not removing the ad about rising U.S. coronavirus cases “could put your station’s license in jeopardy,” the Trump campaign warned.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-threat-critical-ad_n_5e7d0365c5b6256a7a272704?fbclid=IwAR2NQbcaRwvNW-AUC7o8xritKPDJtBuNIh-5aGY0m3y7wUwSAXz3aW6dW8w

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #227 on: May 19, 2020, 06:17:50 PM »

I’ve been out and about a lot the last 4-5 days people are pretty much saying fuck it on the masks and social distancing except where required so I’m sure we will see a giant outbreak of tens of cases

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #228 on: May 19, 2020, 08:15:02 PM »

Quote from: Custard on May 19, 2020, 06:17:50 PM

I’ve been out and about a lot the last 4-5 days people are pretty much saying fuck it on the masks and social distancing except where required so I’m sure we will see a giant outbreak of tens of cases

Today at Schnuck's Urbana, everyone had a mask becept one middle-aged black woman with dyed bright red hair. She didn't otherwise look like a punk rocker, but the rebellion cannot be discounted.

There was a uniformed security guard at the front entrance, and I heard him tell one approaching, unmasked guy that masks were required. The guy nodded, pulled up the bandanna already tied in place around his neck, and entered.

Another employee handed each entrant a Purell wipe. I had my own wipes, so I declined. I think he was also keeping track of the numbers, but it was one out/five in while I was there, so maybe not.

A few days ago, at Urbana's Meijer, I saw a lot of proudly unmasked Trumpanzees. You could tell just by looking at them, even if they weren't wearing black Harley t-shirts or some bastardization of an American eagle/flag. Signs on the front doors required masks for all shoppers, but these guys weren't having it. Plenty of masked Republicans were shopping, but not the graying, angry, mustachioed, lesser-educated workin' white man of a certain age.

There was one older black man without a mask. He was picking up a prescription, and didn't have the energy to remain standing while waiting for it. I wondered if breathing through a mask was too much for him. Maybe he wanted the virus, just to get it over with.

When Heather and I go walking, she wears a mask for solidarity. I don't.

I've seen a couple of joggers wearing them, and as a long time runner, I just can't even. I would pass out.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #229 on: May 19, 2020, 08:29:28 PM »

Quote from: Custard on May 19, 2020, 06:17:50 PM

I’ve been out and about a lot the last 4-5 days people are pretty much saying fuck it on the masks and social distancing except where required so I’m sure we will see a giant outbreak of tens of cases

Probably what will happen in Florida as they appear to want to screw with the numbers down there. For all we know that is what is happening in [insert Southern state run by a Republican governor, the Soviet Union, or China here].

And Boom Goes the Dynamite, my friends.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #230 on: May 19, 2020, 08:41:32 PM »

Do any of you motherfuckers read the Illiniboard-related off-topic forum The Deuce?

Well, I do.

The other day, one of their Trumpanzee agitators "Lord Maximus" linked a Tweet about declining rates of infection, which naturally accused the MSM of not telling you these "facts."

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #231 on: May 19, 2020, 10:49:08 PM »

The grocers and restaurant take out are about the only places I’m seeing steadfast adherence to masks. I see a lot of people in stores just wearing them around their necks. The masks I’ve got are hard enough to breathe through just normally I can’t imagine running in one. Must be a lighter material.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #232 on: May 20, 2020, 10:37:30 AM »

Quote from: fucking on May 19, 2020, 08:41:32 PM

Do any of you motherfuckers read the Illiniboard-related off-topic forum The Deuce?

Well, I do.

hey good for you, you want a medal? or a pat on the back? how bout a cookie?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #233 on: May 20, 2020, 03:29:06 PM »

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #234 on: May 21, 2020, 11:37:53 AM »

Most people in Mattoon have been wearing masks. At least at the Wal-Mart and Home Depot's the majority have been. Few haven't, but majority are.

It really shouldn't surprise anyone in the epidemiology department that your going to see most viruses not transmit as efficiently during higher humidity. Just one of many variables, but still one in our favor in the short term.

The second peak that will come this winter into spring is in all likely hood going to eclipse our current numbers that have piled up to now of come very close. By the end 2021 if there is not a vaccine yet your're looking at +1/2 million U.S. deaths. And that would be a conservative measurement by most studies.

« Last Edit: May 21, 2020, 11:39:29 AM by Jrock74 »

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #235 on: May 22, 2020, 09:28:11 AM »

here's the deal with the "caronavirus"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

this will be one of the biggest economic blunders in our nations history

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #236 on: May 22, 2020, 12:32:39 PM »

Quote from: ILLove1997 on May 22, 2020, 09:28:11 AM

here's the deal with the "caronavirus"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

this will be one of the biggest economic blunders in our nations history

Lighten up Francis.

It's a big economic blunder for a very specific subset of wealthy people. The bottom 50% have zero savings to lose, most are living paycheck to paycheck. If we can bridge that cohort with whatever direct aid we need to get them through this alive, there will be plenty of jobs for them to go back to exactly where they were to begin with.

Money is a fictional concept.

What is not fictional, and a key part of our society, is our health care system, which relies on doctors, nurses, etc.. If we went with business as usual, the amount of total cases would be several X what it will be, meaning those doctors and nurses would have longer extended exposure. That cohort is already the most exposed part of our population, and the part of that cohort that will fare the worst are the older more experienced doctors and nurses who are key to training the next generation. If we lose too many of them, it would set our healthcare system back greatly.

I will note that there is a clear long term impact on our society that will be felt down the road in that the next couple of years of college graduates, especially in technical fields (engineering, medicine) will have taken a big hit and will not hit the ground running as well as usual.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #237 on: May 22, 2020, 12:44:44 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on May 22, 2020, 12:32:39 PM

Quote from: ILLove1997 on May 22, 2020, 09:28:11 AM
here's the deal with the "caronavirus"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

this will be one of the biggest economic blunders in our nations history

Lighten up Francis.

It's a big economic blunder for a very specific subset of wealthy people. The bottom 50% have zero savings to lose, most are living paycheck to paycheck. If we can bridge that cohort with whatever direct aid we need to get them through this alive, there will be plenty of jobs for them to go back to exactly where they were to begin with.

Money is a fictional concept.

What is not fictional, and a key part of our society, is our health care system, which relies on doctors, nurses, etc.. If we went with business as usual, the amount of total cases would be several X what it will be, meaning those doctors and nurses would have longer extended exposure. That cohort is already the most exposed part of our population, and the part of that cohort that will fare the worst are the older more experienced doctors and nurses who are key to training the next generation. If we lose too many of them, it would set our healthcare system back greatly.

I will note that there is a clear long term impact on our society that will be felt down the road in that the next couple of years of college graduates, especially in technical fields (engineering, medicine) will have taken a big hit and will not hit the ground running as well as usual.

I am not referring to rich people when I say this is the biggest economic blunder ever...

I am referring to the millions of small businesses that will shut down due to the excessive lockdown measures enacted by our clown show local government leaders

Big box stores are doing GREAT! All their competition is not allowed to operate right now

Chain restaurants are doing GREAT! As nearly all their competition has or will be wiped out

Small businesses are the growth engine of the US economy they are nearly the entire creator of jobs in the economy
https://sbecouncil.org/about-us/facts-and-data/

do you have any fucking clue how hard it is to operate and start a small business? I'm sure you have some idea as a vacation rental owner..

These jobs are NOT coming back any time soon!

Money is an exchange for goods and services, if we don't make goods, or provide services the money is worthless!

as for the X number of more cases murph, we have laid off 1.4 MILLION healthcare workers in April!!!!! The initial 14 days to flatten the curve was fine, what was not fine was the insanity of never ending lock down that prevailed after that
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/08/852435761/as-hospitals-lose-revenue-thousands-of-health-care-workers-face-furloughs-layoff

almost all the mobile hospitals we set up went unused
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients

its like a comedy of errors at this point and its infuriating

Oh, here ya go murph, I wouldn't want you to get in trouble

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/slideshow/What-am-I-allowed-to-do-outside-this-Memorial-Day-202618.php

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #238 on: May 22, 2020, 01:56:23 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on May 22, 2020, 12:32:39 PM

Money is a fictional concept.

For years I've been telling Heather "money isn't real," typically in response to an exclamation about "sales" versus value.

She was not especially good with money when we met. She gets it now.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

« Reply #239 on: May 22, 2020, 02:18:07 PM »

Quote from: ILLove1997 on May 22, 2020, 12:44:44 PM

I am not referring to rich people when I say this is the biggest economic blunder ever...

I am referring to the millions of small businesses that will shut down due to the excessive lockdown measures enacted by our clown show local government leaders

Big box stores are doing GREAT! All their competition is not allowed to operate right now

Chain restaurants are doing GREAT! As nearly all their competition has or will be wiped out

Small businesses are the growth engine of the US economy they are nearly the entire creator of jobs in the economy
https://sbecouncil.org/about-us/facts-and-data/

do you have any fucking clue how hard it is to operate and start a small business? I'm sure you have some idea as a vacation rental owner..

These jobs are NOT coming back any time soon!

Money is an exchange for goods and services, if we don't make goods, or provide services the money is worthless!

as for the X number of more cases murph, we have laid off 1.4 MILLION healthcare workers in April!!!!! The initial 14 days to flatten the curve was fine, what was not fine was the insanity of never ending lock down that prevailed after that
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/08/852435761/as-hospitals-lose-revenue-thousands-of-health-care-workers-face-furloughs-layoff

almost all the mobile hospitals we set up went unused
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients

its like a comedy of errors at this point and its infuriating

Oh, here ya go murph, I wouldn't want you to get in trouble

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/slideshow/What-am-I-allowed-to-do-outside-this-Memorial-Day-202618.php

If you own a small business, you are better off than at minimum 50% of the country. And if you were able to put yourself in that position, you'll do fine unless your brain shut down completely. The opportunity post pandemic will be massive. The people with the moxie to start a small business before will have that same moxie but with a wider set of opportunity.

Declare bankruptcy and move on, with the backing of our society if we aren't complete morons. Who loses? Landlords. Screw em. We should value labor over capital. If small businesses are needing to declare bankruptcy it's because the landlords expected them to pay rent as usual while they were in metaphorical breach. We have a bill in the CA Senate requiring retail landlords to give rent reductions because the tenants are not getting the value that the landlord promised - if the restaurant can only seat 50% as many people because of distancing regulations, then the tenant is not getting the same thing the landlord offered when the lease was signed.

I think what this comes down to is that you're a money pusher without any inherent skillset, you don't design or produce anything of real value, do any real additive work for society. The pandemic threatens the model where you can make money from thin air, and that makes you angry.

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