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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6540 on: March 12, 2025, 07:55:06 PM »
So if I want to know what to know what intelligence is really thinking; I need to ask our resident Trumpists?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6541 on: March 12, 2025, 09:24:28 PM »
Quote from: Custard on March 12, 2025, 02:40:32 PM
It’s always been interesting to me that the people who were the most concerned and militant about Covid and the policies to mitigate it also have no real interest figuring out where it came from. And as more evidence mounts that it came from a lab, they’ve basically stuck their fingers in their ears and started screeching. Virus that supposedly killed millions probably came from a lab in China that we were funding? Nothing see here!

Meanwhile same people melting down about every single thing Trump says and does.

What would you do if you found out it was CHINA? Put a 10% tariff on them?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6542 on: March 12, 2025, 09:27:03 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on March 12, 2025, 04:27:44 PM
Good one ThePAMan

indeed. Scientists don't know jack shit. We need to put our faith in Alex Jones and Mike Lindell

Why is Trump playing small ball with the Department of Education? He should be forcing all Publicly funded Universities to disband their Colleges of Biology. It's all fake anyway. Everything we need to know about Biology is in The Bible and The Art of the Deal
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6543 on: March 12, 2025, 10:58:24 PM »
Let's not forget 'DEFENDING WOMEN FROM GENDER IDEOLOGY EXTREMISM AND RESTORING BIOLOGICAL TRUTH TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT"
The White House
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6544 on: March 13, 2025, 12:31:09 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on March 12, 2025, 07:55:06 PM
So if I want to know what to know what intelligence is really thinking; I need to ask our resident Trumpists?

You’re old enough to know that politics, power and money create the Truth. State funded and influenced media reports/confirms it. It’s up to the rest of us to sort the wheat from the chaff. Most are content to just accept narrative as fact.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6545 on: March 13, 2025, 12:56:16 AM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on March 12, 2025, 09:27:03 PM
indeed. Scientists don't know jack shit. We need to put our faith in Alex Jones and Mike Lindell

Why is Trump playing small ball with the Department of Education? He should be forcing all Publicly funded Universities to disband their Colleges of Biology. It's all fake anyway. Everything we need to know about Biology is in The Bible and The Art of the Deal

Science evangelists seem to think that the good folks conducting the science are doing so out of the goodness of their hearts at some magic lab funded by goodness and faith and morality and rainbow farting unicorns. That’s not so different than Christian evangelism.

The vast majority of scientists work for money. That money comes almost entirely from corporations, government, and universities. Each of those institutions have an inherent level of greed, corruption, and, most importantly,  preferred outcomes.

Science evangelists like Tempo hate corporations and greed and corruption. But science itself is primarily funded by the same entities he despises. Science is corporate. Science is bureaucratic. Science often tells you what the money tells them to tell you.

Science is malleable depending on preferred outcomes that make more money for the entity funding the science. Data is manipulated, cherry picked and reworked every single day to support the most profitable outcome. I see it Every. Single. Day.

I’m old enough to remember when the left was against Big Pharma. In 2025, no one loves Big Pharma more than left leaning science evangelists. Against all odds, they became the good guys.

Science is important and it undeniably drives our future. But holding it up as an infallible source of truth is dangerous head-in-the-sand nonsense.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6546 on: March 13, 2025, 10:55:56 AM »
Quote from: Custard on March 13, 2025, 12:56:16 AM
Science is malleable depending on preferred outcomes that make more money for the entity funding the science.

I prefer that when I throw a football, the outcome will be a tight spiral every time that goes directly into the hands of my wideout. I will fund the malleable science to make it so, which will make me more money when I replace Caleb as the Bears starting QB and win the Super Bowl.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6547 on: March 13, 2025, 11:21:40 AM »
Big pharma became the good guys when a charlatan blamed autism on vaccines.

There are good guys and bad guys in both Big Pharma and alternative medicine. By and large, you are going to find a lot more snake oil salesmen peddling alternatives.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6548 on: March 13, 2025, 12:06:33 PM »
"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness... The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites, lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."

"We've arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements — transportation, communications, and all other industries; agriculture, medicine, education, entertainment, protecting the environment; and even the key democratic institution of voting — profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."

—Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, 1995
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6549 on: March 13, 2025, 12:44:56 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on March 13, 2025, 12:06:33 PM
We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."

—Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, 1995

See also: Mike Judge, Idiocracy
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #6550 on: March 14, 2025, 10:34:45 AM »
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