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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5835 on: December 27, 2023, 07:17:24 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 27, 2023, 06:41:02 PM

We will never know unless China decides to cooperate fully. That will not happen in an atmospheric of mutual fear, hatred, and distrust.

And because they are fucking Commie assholes.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5836 on: December 27, 2023, 07:47:39 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 27, 2023, 07:17:24 PM
And because they are fucking Commie assholes.

And because we are greedy lying ass capitalist pigs..
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5837 on: December 27, 2023, 08:00:59 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on December 27, 2023, 07:47:39 PM
And because we are greedy lying ass capitalist pigs..

The Wuhan Flu didn't start here though.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5838 on: December 27, 2023, 08:13:30 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 27, 2023, 08:00:59 PM
The Wuhan Flu didn't start here though.

RFK jr disagrees. 
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5839 on: December 30, 2023, 10:16:27 AM »
"Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says."
From a 2015 article in Nature. Some of the names may be familiar.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.18787

"Editors’ note, March 2020 We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus."
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5840 on: December 30, 2023, 04:20:35 PM »
Lol

This is still my favorite pre pandemic article. Pretty much calls bullshit on all the stupid stuff we shouldn’t have done before we went ahead and did it anyways.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5841 on: January 01, 2024, 10:58:55 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on December 26, 2023, 11:45:00 AM
Wish me luck friends my trip to Springfield is now a Superspreader!  That’s what we get for letting someone come from Joe Biden’s hellhole of Washington DC!

Virus must be a hoax because somehow all three of us avoided it. 3 of 13 attendees positive.
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« Reply #5842 on: January 01, 2024, 11:27:50 PM »
It’s was kinda funny sad being back in Illinois this last week and hearing people still fretting about Covid. On the radio. TV. In conversations in public places. Advertisements and billboards.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5843 on: January 02, 2024, 07:07:30 AM »
Quote from: Custard on January 01, 2024, 11:27:50 PM
It’s was kinda funny sad being back in Illinois this last week and hearing people still fretting about Covid. On the radio. TV. In conversations in public places. Advertisements and billboards.
To try to keep people like you, and others, from thinking about how we got to here. Lol
There's a page 2 WaPo story in today's fishwrap about long covid with the 1st paragraph informing the reader that many people now view Covid as a minor inconvenience like the flu.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5844 on: January 02, 2024, 11:46:37 AM »
Quote from: Custard on January 01, 2024, 11:27:50 PM
It’s was kinda funny sad being back in Illinois this last week and hearing people still fretting about Covid. On the radio. TV. In conversations in public places. Advertisements and billboards.

You're a victim of confirmation bias here. For decades, there have been PSAs about getting your flu shot. They just go in one ear and out the other for the most part... from a research standpoint they know that those PSAs move the needle just a couple percent - some subset of people who think "Yes, I want to get a flu shot" but who might not because they forget or it's a hassle, are either reminded or find out that it's easy or free and go do get one. Maybe some people who don't really think about it decide to go get one. And that tiny uptick can have a measurable impact on overall public goodness, X number of people don't get the flu (or bad symptoms) and that has a Y% reduced impact on the health care system, on productivity for workers, etc...

So now that COVID is not really "that big a deal" in that most people have either been vaccinated, had COVID, or died from COVID, the societal impacts are smaller, and it's more like "the flu", and is being treated like the flu in that it's rolling into the same sort of PSAs that you used to ignore, but now you notice because of the recent history of COVID in the zeitgeist
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5845 on: January 02, 2024, 11:58:40 AM »
Quote from: Mn on January 02, 2024, 07:07:30 AM
many people now view Covid as a minor inconvenience like the flu.

This is really where we are. 3 years ago, I went to the ER and it was overwhelmed despite additional capacity being built into tents in the parking lot. A woman sitting next to me in the "Waiting room" (a row of chairs on the roadway leading into the building) had a broken hip and waited 2+ hours to get an X-Ray before they then immediately admitted her for surgery the next day. Were this to happen to her today, she'd be on the X-Ray table inside of 20 minutes.

For 99.99% of people, they never were in that sort of situation - no acute ER needs during the height of COVID. But we operate in the US from a viewpoint that "if I have a medical emergency we have infrastructure to deal with it, pronto", and that was falling apart despite some people not being exposed to that reality.

Now there are fewer COVID admissions and fewer health care providers being sidelined for extended periods of time due to COVID. That, to me, is why we can say that "COVID is in the rear view mirror" even though "You'll probably get a COVID case that knocks you on your ass every couple of years or so".

The best upside is this sort of thing - when my Nephew started feeling like crap, he took a test, he had COVID, so he extricated himself from the remainder of the trip, we opened up the windows, masked up, stayed out of the room he had been sleeping in. Also a minor inconvenience, but 10 of the 12 other people on the trip didn't get sick, which is a pretty good result for us given the bit of effort we put in. Pre-COVID, he probably would have just sucked it up, stuck around, and all of us would have gotten sick. Hell, he probably would have gone into work and infected the whole office.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5846 on: January 02, 2024, 01:22:46 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 01, 2024, 11:27:50 PM
It’s was kinda funny sad being back in Illinois this last week and hearing people still fretting about Covid. On the radio. TV. In conversations in public places. Advertisements and billboards.

I think it’s kinda funny sad that health officials are fretting about the uptick in COVID, RSV and flu cases in Tennessee.  Why can’t they just let people get on with their lives?  Don't they realize that upper respiratory illnesses can increase in the fall and winter months?  So much doom and gloom!

https://news.yahoo.com/middle-tennessee-hospitals-seeing-spike-235513450.html

https://www.waff.com/2023/12/29/flu-cases-ramp-up-tennessee-valley-while-covid-cases-become-more-severe/

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/health/2023/08/16/covid-19-cases-rise-nationally-and-in-east-tennessee/70587171007/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5847 on: January 02, 2024, 02:50:16 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on January 02, 2024, 11:46:37 AM
You're a victim of confirmation bias here. For decades, there have been PSAs about getting your flu shot. They just go in one ear and out the other for the most part... from a research standpoint they know that those PSAs move the needle just a couple percent - some subset of people who think "Yes, I want to get a flu shot" but who might not because they forget or it's a hassle, are either reminded or find out that it's easy or free and go do get one. Maybe some people who don't really think about it decide to go get one. And that tiny uptick can have a measurable impact on overall public goodness, X number of people don't get the flu (or bad symptoms) and that has a Y% reduced impact on the health care system, on productivity for workers, etc...

So now that COVID is not really "that big a deal" in that most people have either been vaccinated, had COVID, or died from COVID, the societal impacts are smaller, and it's more like "the flu", and is being treated like the flu in that it's rolling into the same sort of PSAs that you used to ignore, but now you notice because of the recent history of COVID in the zeitgeist

I don’t really think that’s it. Definitely a difference in the way certain areas/health systems are pushing Covid vaccinations/boosters. And it’s definitely along political lines.

Now Alum and Ray will tell you that Covid awareness and prevention is a good thing, and it is. There’s also the cynical side of me that understands the big corporations know people in blue states have been scared to death by their fear propaganda and it’s easy money to keep them on the hook.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #5848 on: January 02, 2024, 03:50:44 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 02, 2024, 02:50:16 PM
I don’t really think that’s it. Definitely a difference in the way certain areas/health systems are pushing Covid vaccinations/boosters. And it’s definitely along political lines.

Now Alum and Ray will tell you that Covid awareness and prevention is a good thing, and it is. There’s also the cynical side of me that understands the big corporations know people in blue states have been scared to death by their fear propaganda and it’s easy money to keep them on the hook.

There’s also the cynical conspiracy side of me that understands the big corporations know people in blue states have been scared to death by their fear propaganda and it’s easy money to keep them on the hook.

FTFY
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« Reply #5849 on: January 02, 2024, 03:52:02 PM »
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