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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3870 on: December 26, 2021, 10:18:08 AM »
Well that would certainly explain why hospitals are filling up 🤣
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3871 on: December 26, 2021, 10:50:04 AM »
Quote from: Mn on December 26, 2021, 10:14:37 AM
"Vermont has the highest vaccination rate in the nation, is one of the least densely populated states, and the ERs are clogged by people with no COVID symptoms."



vs Fauci .... said it would be safe for fully vaccinated individuals, who are boosted, to attend smaller family gatherings.
Quite the dilemma.

Why are they in the ER?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3872 on: December 26, 2021, 11:06:31 AM »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3873 on: December 26, 2021, 11:09:58 AM »
Quote from: fucking on December 26, 2021, 02:05:41 AM
Looks like no data from the armpit of Indiana.

You’re more than welcome to look up the readily available data for wherever you believe I live.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3874 on: December 26, 2021, 11:15:56 AM »
Quote from: fucking on December 26, 2021, 02:35:39 AM
Hold on, didn't you just say you're against massive straw men?

Asserting that “Murph is really dug in on banishing the virus” is objective truth. He is. And it’s a Very Noble Cause.  It’s great he can afford to send his kids to small private schools that have the resources to do all the things he outlines.


Then there’s the real world.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3875 on: December 26, 2021, 11:16:04 AM »
Quote from: fucking on December 26, 2021, 02:05:41 AM
Looks like no data from the armpit of Indiana.

you have really lost a step lately, might want to get a brain scan or something bud

https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/indiana-covid-19-dashboard-and-map/
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3876 on: December 26, 2021, 12:13:48 PM »
Looks like the rising number of hospitalizations in Vermont started before Thanksgiving.   

An early key factor for the ICU surge was “pent-up demand from critically-ill patients whose medical conditions worsened due to lack of medical care earlier in the pandemic.  At the same time, Covid-19 intensive care admissions rose almost 30% since the beginning of October.”

Staff vacancies also made it difficult for hospitals to keep ICU beds open.  Contract workers from FEMA were brought in.
https://vtdigger.org/2021/11/18/holiday-covid-19-transmission-likely-to-determine-vermonts-icu-capacity-this-winter/

The vast majority of the COVID cases in ICUs are among the unvaccinated.  According to a state health official, “unvaccinated Vermonters are 15 times more likely to require hospital care.  They’re likely to spend a longer time in the hospital and consume more hospital resources.”
https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/07/watch-live-scott-weekly-media-briefing/
https://www.news10.com/news/vt-news/vermont-hospitals-flooded-by-post-thanksgiving-covid-admissions/

“Vermont leads the country in the percentage of people fully vaccinated and boosted.  More than 203,000 Vermonters, 18 and older, are fully boosted." That’s 47%, but not enough according to the state epidemiologist.   
https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/13/how-state-is-working-boost-vermonts-covid-booster-shot-rate/

Boost up folks.   

« Last Edit: December 26, 2021, 12:15:35 PM by alum74 »
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3877 on: December 26, 2021, 01:08:55 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 26, 2021, 12:13:48 PM
Looks like the rising number of hospitalizations in Vermont started before Thanksgiving.   

An early key factor for the ICU surge was “pent-up demand from critically-ill patients whose medical conditions worsened due to lack of medical care earlier in the pandemic.  At the same time, Covid-19 intensive care admissions rose almost 30% since the beginning of October.”

Staff vacancies also made it difficult for hospitals to keep ICU beds open.  Contract workers from FEMA were brought in.
https://vtdigger.org/2021/11/18/holiday-covid-19-transmission-likely-to-determine-vermonts-icu-capacity-this-winter/

The vast majority of the COVID cases in ICUs are among the unvaccinated.  According to a state health official, “unvaccinated Vermonters are 15 times more likely to require hospital care.  They’re likely to spend a longer time in the hospital and consume more hospital resources.”
https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/07/watch-live-scott-weekly-media-briefing/
https://www.news10.com/news/vt-news/vermont-hospitals-flooded-by-post-thanksgiving-covid-admissions/

“Vermont leads the country in the percentage of people fully vaccinated and boosted.  More than 203,000 Vermonters, 18 and older, are fully boosted." That’s 47%, but not enough according to the state epidemiologist.   
https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/13/how-state-is-working-boost-vermonts-covid-booster-shot-rate/

Boost up folks.

Thank you for apologizing for them. Idk what they’d do without you. I’m sure they appreciate you so much.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3878 on: December 26, 2021, 06:52:15 PM »
I didn’t really see that as him apologizing for them but just answering PAMan’s question in his typical fashion. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3879 on: December 26, 2021, 07:36:28 PM »
Nothing to apologize for. The fact is even in the state with the highest percentage of vaxxed people there are still a lot of people who are not who have go to the hospital for COVID-related reasons. And, based on the stats, a good number of those hospitalizations would be unnecessary if they were vaxxed. Even QAnon97, to his credit, posted that those over x age (I think it was 50 - I'll check) should be vaxxed.

Chump edit- yes, it was 50.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3880 on: December 26, 2021, 09:20:58 PM »
I found the link to the story:

https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/22/covid-positive-vermonters-with-no-symptoms-clog-up-ers/

It looks like a lot of people are using home antigen tests, testing positive, then going to ER to get PCR test which is eroding the staff’s ability to deal with people who are actually having emergencies.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3881 on: December 26, 2021, 09:23:44 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 26, 2021, 09:20:58 PM
I found the link to the story:

https://www.wcax.com/2021/12/22/covid-positive-vermonters-with-no-symptoms-clog-up-ers/

It looks like a lot of people are using home antigen tests, testing positive, then going to ER to get PCR test which is eroding the staff’s ability to deal with people who are actually having emergencies.

Custard = Alum is a match?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3882 on: December 26, 2021, 09:51:25 PM »
Quote from: Custard on December 15, 2021, 11:26:19 PM
It makes some sense. From what I’ve seen people have left their jobs for one of three primary reasons:

Mask mandate

Vaccine mandate

Got a better job

Asked some direct questions of my doctor/professor friend today regarding the staffing situations they’re seeing. As expected, it’s multi-faceted.

Blows my mind that all these people are walking away from careers over the vaccine.




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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3883 on: December 26, 2021, 10:15:07 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 26, 2021, 10:50:04 AM
Why are they in the ER?
I read the article before I posted, but my guess is they are vaxxed and under the impression they therefore won't get the Covid.
They may have been exposed to someone with the Covid and thought they should test, were surprised with the result and felt the need for PCR verification.
Or they were vaxxed and were told to test so they didn't kill grandma on Christmas Day, tested positive and felt the need for PCR verification.
Maybe the person behind the article could have asked some of the asymptomatic people showing up at ER and looking for tests.
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #3884 on: December 26, 2021, 10:54:14 PM »
Sometimes a picture is “worth a thousand words.”

Intimate portraits of a hospital COVID unit from a photojournalist-turned-nurse
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/26/1066395049/intimate-portraits-of-a-hospital-covid-unit-from-a-photojournalist-turned-nurse
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