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WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2940 on: September 09, 2021, 04:21:34 PM »
And good luck finding a person or two who believes the flu vaccine is 100% effective.
Exactly. So they changed the definition to match reality.

You're dumb.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2941 on: September 09, 2021, 04:27:16 PM »
A herd. That's what you need.

Do you have any plans for a big group gathering in the next few weeks?

Like how big?  I've been out and about living life normally for quite some time now.  I'll be in Vegas on Saturday to pick up my new Porsche, what are you up to?  Wanna do a road trip to LA with me?

If not I'll be at the blackjack table at the Trump hotel for a little bit on Friday night
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2942 on: September 09, 2021, 04:49:51 PM »
Exactly what does a May 14 column about adding mRNA to the definition and a discussion indicating no understanding of the impact on transmissibility after vaccination have to do with a Sept 1 wording that changes the description of a vaccine from providing immunity, to providing protection ?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2943 on: September 09, 2021, 04:56:38 PM »
The call is coming from inside Merriam-Webster's offices!
What's Merriam's position in the administration ?

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2944 on: September 09, 2021, 05:16:46 PM »
Sept 1.
"Vaccination ... to produce protection..."

"Immunity ... protection from an infectious disease.....you can be exposed to it without becoming infected."

I suppose that would mean that a vaccination would produce protectiion, which is referred to as immunity, which means infection will not occur.
Oh, ok.
And good luck finding a person or two who believes the flu vaccine is 100% effective.
Nice try, CDC spokesperson.

The conspiracy theory whack-a-mole saga continues…

Vaccine skeptics claim a new CDC gotcha moment — but they haven’t got much
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/09/vaccine-skeptics-claim-new-cdc-gotcha-moment-they-havent-got-much/

“From the start of the vaccination campaigns, critics have searched long and hard for evidence that the vaccines don’t work as well as they were supposed to. This has sometimes involved suggesting that anything less than 100 percent efficacy means they don’t work.”

“In truth, though, medical experts have long said that no vaccine, including the coronavirus vaccines, is 100 percent effective. If “immunity” connotes complete protection, then no vaccine actually provides it.”

“Part of the reason people seem to believe immunity means 100 percent protection stems from how it’s understood in other contexts. Legally speaking, immunity from things like prosecution means you can’t be prosecuted, full stop. But in a medical contexts, it’s often used as a synonym for a specific type of protection — i.e. the same word the CDC now uses.”

“The Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary defines immunity as ‘a condition of being able to resist a particular disease.’ Taber’s Medical Dictionary defines it as, ‘Protection from diseases, [especially] from infectious diseases.’ Harvard’s medical dictionary defines it as, ‘The body’s ability to resist infection and disease.’ The Oxford Concise Medical Dictionary echoes all of them, saying immunity is ‘the body’s ability to resist infection.’”

“The data clearly shows the coronavirus vaccines meet these definitions of providing immunity, as do other vaccines with less than 100 percent efficacy. Those include the flu vaccines, whose efficacy is generally around 40 percent. The flu vaccines are still vaccines and still provide immunity — just not complete immunity.”

“The irony of all of this is that the theories about what the [CDC] change really means actually reinforce the idea that it’s probably better to use “protection” than “immunity” — given that people don’t seem to understand what 'immunity' actually means.”

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2945 on: September 09, 2021, 05:54:30 PM »
Lol.


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2946 on: September 09, 2021, 10:54:56 PM »
Like how big?  I've been out and about living life normally for quite some time now.  I'll be in Vegas on Saturday to pick up my new Porsche, what are you up to?  Wanna do a road trip to LA with me?

If not I'll be at the blackjack table at the Trump hotel for a little bit on Friday night

I've done the LA to Vegas drive a few times. It doesn't make any sense to me. Flights from LAX and Burbank are less expensive than the gas.

So no. I wouldn't enjoy that road trip. But I would certainly enjoy the Vegas part. Vegas is much better with crazy people.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2947 on: September 10, 2021, 12:07:23 AM »
Like how big?  I've been out and about living life normally for quite some time now.  I'll be in Vegas on Saturday to pick up my new Porsche, what are you up to?  Wanna do a road trip to LA with me?

If not I'll be at the blackjack table at the Trump hotel for a little bit on Friday night


If memory serves, Trump International Hotel Las Vegas does *NOT* have gaming.

Any chance you are related to the guy who claimed he had won a huge fortune playing craps at Harrah's New Mexico? We're still laughing at that guy's bullsh*t.


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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2948 on: September 10, 2021, 12:22:30 AM »

If memory serves, Trump International Hotel Las Vegas does *NOT* have gaming.

Any chance you are related to the guy who claimed he had won a huge fortune playing craps at Harrah's New Mexico? We're still laughing at that guy's bullsh*t.

Maybe he is also picking up a Yugo and not a Porsche?
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2949 on: September 10, 2021, 12:33:30 AM »
Even the McDonald's in Vegas have gaming. There's no structure in Clark County that doesn't have at least video poker.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2950 on: September 10, 2021, 12:37:49 AM »
Maybe he is also picking up a Yugo and not a Porsche?

Definite possibility, although finding a Yugo at this point might not be that easy. If it is actually a Porsche, always a possibility it's one made by Hot Wheels.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2951 on: September 10, 2021, 09:40:00 AM »

If memory serves, Trump International Hotel Las Vegas does *NOT* have gaming.

Any chance you are related to the guy who claimed he had won a huge fortune playing craps at Harrah's New Mexico? We're still laughing at that guy's bullsh*t.

no, I am a terrible gambler, don't even know how to play craps other than the pass line

and yeah I'm not going to give my actual position away to crazy ass Rob

lets just say I'm staying near the Trump hotel
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2952 on: September 10, 2021, 09:42:30 AM »
Definite possibility, although finding a Yugo at this point might not be that easy. If it is actually a Porsche, always a possibility it's one made by Hot Wheels.

it is a set of hot wheels but not the toy brand

Its a real deal brand new specced by me GT Porsche

very excited to say the least

going to drive up the Pacific Coast Highway on my way home to put the break in miles on it
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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2953 on: September 10, 2021, 11:38:43 AM »
Even the McDonald's in Vegas have gaming. There's no structure in Clark County that doesn't have at least video poker.

That might be the perception of some but reality is different. Trump International Hotel Las Vegas doesn't have gaming, perhaps in part because of its off-Strip location. That being said, if Trump/Ruffin had decided to include gaming, Trump would have run the casino into the ground like he did with several others.

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Re: WTF is the deal with the caronavirus?
« Reply #2954 on: September 10, 2021, 11:42:26 AM »
Sept 1.
"Vaccination ... to produce protection..."

"Immunity ... protection from an infectious disease.....you can be exposed to it without becoming infected."

I suppose that would mean that a vaccination would produce protectiion, which is referred to as immunity, which means infection will not occur.
Oh, ok.
And good luck finding a person or two who believes the flu vaccine is 100% effective.
Nice try, CDC spokesperson.

Vaccines trigger a response in your body to produce anti-bodies which fight off a substance that has infected you.
It can't "prevent infection", if you go around licking doorknobs, some of the bad stuff will get into you, were you under the impression that vaccines are midichlorians that use the Force to repel viruses with a magic shield?

Immunity means "that stuff won't bother you". People who are immune to poison oak can roll around in poison oak and won't have an allergic reaction. The stuff still gets onto their skin, they are still "infected" with poison oak, they are just immune to bad things happening due to it.

"The flu" is a catchall for a class of viruses, the vaccine is generated every year as a prediction based on what strains we expect to see. If the prediction is off, the vaccine will be less effective.
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