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Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?

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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2026, 03:22:50 PM »
What percentage of Americans receive that perceived right (cough,cough) thru their employer and union contracts ?

Less than universal coverage. And when people get fired, laid off, or change jobs even less than that.

It is absolute insanity to have your healthcare tied to your employer. For example, my son’s mother’s place of employment is shuttering and she lost her healthcare because they didn’t pay the bills. But let it be known Mn (cough cough) says you have the right to go fuck yourself if you lose your job through no fault of your own or get sick.
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2026, 03:24:49 PM »
Less than universal coverage. And when people get fired, laid off, or change jobs even less than that.

It is absolute insanity to have your healthcare tied to your employer. For example, my son’s mother’s place of employment is shuttering and she lost her healthcare because they didn’t pay the bills. But let it be known Mn (cough cough) says you have the right to go fuck yourself if you lose your job through no fault of your own or get sick.

Going back to paying with chickens or cornmeal will drive down the cost of medical care.
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2026, 03:25:07 PM »
Some people stay at jobs they hate because they are afraid they’ll lose tbeir health insurance (if they are lucky enough to work somewhere that offers it, and even luckier if it’s actually good insurance). (Inhale) Ahhhh, smells like freedom to me.
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2026, 03:31:56 PM »
Some people stay at jobs they hate because they are afraid they’ll lose tbeir health insurance (if they are lucky enough to work somewhere that offers it, and even luckier if it’s actually good insurance). (Inhale) Ahhhh, smells like freedom to me.

Didn't Obamacare provisions take care of this; i.e., portable health insurance?
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2026, 05:23:39 PM »
Less than universal coverage. And when people get fired, laid off, or change jobs even less than that.

It is absolute insanity to have your healthcare tied to your employer. For example, my son’s mother’s place of employment is shuttering and she lost her healthcare because they didn’t pay the bills. But let it be known Mn (cough cough) says you have the right to go fuck yourself if you lose your job through no fault of your own or get sick.
If you want to tell her to "go fuck yourself", that's up to you.

I might suggest exploring available options.
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2026, 06:19:40 PM »
Didn't Obamacare provisions take care of this; i.e., portable health insurance?

lol

Yeah, I'm not gonna get the same insurance I had at JensenCo ever, for any price. Well, I do until my COBRA window runs out.

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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2026, 10:28:46 PM »
Less than universal coverage. And when people get fired, laid off, or change jobs even less than that.

It is absolute insanity to have your healthcare tied to your employer. For example, my son’s mother’s place of employment is shuttering and she lost her healthcare because they didn’t pay the bills. But let it be known Mn (cough cough) says you have the right to go fuck yourself if you lose your job through no fault of your own or get sick.

Over 80 million Americans are on Medicaid, which is basically free universal healthcare. The vast majority of these people are older or low income. 

Something like 86% of people in this category are insured by Medicaid. The ones that aren’t enrolled typically just haven’t chosen to do so. 

For those of us that aren’t low income, we typically rely on gainful employment tied to our insurance. It may be insane in your mind, but I love the fact that my employer pays the vast majority of the cost for my very good insurance. It’s a great perk and is a good way for companies to attract top talent.

There are other resources for folks without insurance like free and low-cost clinics, community clinics, charity hospitals, ACA has cost sharing reduction options and tax credits to help those in need. There are private group plans people can get into to save on premiums.

It’s just really not as bad as some people make it out to be. And I’ve heard enough firsthand horror stories of how bad socialized medicine can actually be in practice. And all it does is jack up taxes on top of it.
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2026, 10:39:26 PM »
It may be insane in your mind, but I love the fact that my employer pays the vast majority of the cost for my very good insurance. It’s a great perk and is a good way for companies to attract top talent.

It’s just really not as bad as some people make it out to be. And I’ve heard enough firsthand horror stories of how bad socialized medicine can actually be in practice. And all it does is jack up taxes on top of it.

So your taxes go up by a few thousand a year, but your employer now needs to attract that top talent with some manner other than health insurance. Fortuntately for them, they are no longer paying for your health insurance, and can attract you by paying you more money.

I guess one flaw would be all the unemployed CEOs at Cigna and Blue Cross. Then again, with their 9 figure pay packages out the window, we can use that money to actually provide health insurance.

As for horror stories of socialized medicine in other countries....  it's pretty wild that you preach this American Exceptionalism but you don't think that we are capable of getting it right. I understand you might be pretty down on the capabilities of the US after watching Trump spend the last 18 months trying to turn this place into a dumpster fire, but what's the point of living if you're gonna be such a goddamn pessimist. When I come to the game in Champaign I don't want to be near your sorry ass "Oh wah, Purdue is gonna beat us, we suck, blah blah blah this is gonna be awful"

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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2026, 10:41:30 PM »
Does Trumpism constitute an effective platform?

He’s done or is working on just about everything he campaigned (and won) on:


https://x.com/johncwright2001/status/2096870044164657431?s=46

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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2026, 10:48:44 PM »
He’s done or is working on just about everything he campaigned (and won) on:


https://x.com/johncwright2001/status/2096870044164657431?s=46

Trumpism - tariffs, war. Check. Is that working?

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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2026, 11:38:10 PM »
He’s done or is working on just about everything he campaigned (and won) on:

https://x.com/johncwright2001/status/2096870044164657431?s=46

No one voted for irrational tariffs, a strategically incoherent war, harsh immigration policies, the dismantling of the federal government, betrayal of allies, or unprecedented attacks on Americans’ voting rights. The list goes on.

It is hardly surprising that Trump’s approval ratings are so low. Many who voted for him are now reaching the “find out” stage.

He seems focused above all on building monuments to his own ego—prancing around a golden ballroom nobody cares about.   
 
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Re: Where’s Mitch? Is Mitch McConnell still alive?
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2026, 11:50:34 PM »
No one voted for irrational tariffs, a strategically incoherent war, harsh immigration policies, the dismantling of the federal government, betrayal of allies, or unprecedented attacks on Americans’ voting rights. The list goes on.




Despite your creative language to try and explain away what people wanted, people actually did want those things. It’s what he campaigned on and why he won.

Who gives a flying fuck about a Trump poll at this point? Those have been garbage for the last 10 years.
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« Reply #42 on: Today at 12:17:24 AM »



Despite your creative language to try and explain away what people wanted, people actually did want those things. It’s what he campaigned on and why he won.

Who gives a flying fuck about a Trump poll at this point? Those have been garbage for the last 10 years.

The people who put Trump over the top can’t spell tariff or find Iran on a map.

He promised lower prices, lower interest rates, and no wars. He is 0-3

The first two aren’t “policies” unless you are a communist. His voters just got conned into “he’s a business man” and trusted him, other voters looked at what little actual *policies* he discussed and knew he’d accomplish the opposite of his promises. Granted now he’s gonna go full commie and import mystery meat to sell to people as “ground beef” at fixed (eg commie) prices and trash our beef industry

As for no wars - well I guess you can ask the families of those who died and they can confirm this is not “a war” as they aren’t getting survivor benefits