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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1650 on: Today at 12:12:33 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on Today at 10:38:59 AM
You can’t be this fucking stupid (or just insensitive). They literally compared Palestianians to animals and said “they should have a place where they “can be free (but not escape).” So in other words, keep them in an open air prison. The way these girls talked was super racist and ignorant. Of course you chose to defend it.


Palentinians aren’t even a distinct race, so I’m not sure how it’s super racist.

I don’t agree with what these young women (who appeared to have just been minding their own business shopping or something) have to say, but also remember that they’ve experienced brutal attacks at the hands of these people in their homeland and are actively at war with them. A conflict that spans generations.

I’m sure they’re getting blasted with as much anti-Palestinian propaganda as you are pro-Palestinian propaganda.
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« Reply #1651 on: Today at 02:23:02 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on Today at 10:59:22 AM
Or maybe they are just sick of Palestinian murder, mayhem, and sense entitlement without any desire to work towards peace? We will soon find out if the US likes life under Jensen Huang's control!

Fixed, you tried to fool us but we know you shill for AI billionaires.
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« Reply #1652 on: Today at 02:25:09 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on Today at 11:43:51 AM
Same person .....
She's condemned Israel for over 75 years.

118,000 followers and she got 5 ❤️'s

"Person" - you are shilling for AI too.

Are there any "people" left on the twotter?

It surely is a mess over there, that's for sure. I blame the British. Because in the end, they cause everything.
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« Reply #1653 on: Today at 02:27:36 PM »
Quote from: Custard on Today at 12:06:14 PM
We rounded up German and Japanese Americans and put them in camps, some were still there as late as 1948. We even gathered up Germans in Latin America and put them in US camps. There were no apologies or reparations. So basically the American government did the exact same thing as this two young women were suggesting.

Anti-German sentiment was strong during and after WWI and II. Germans were ostracized, German Americans anglicized their German surnames, institutions were attacked and condemned, place and food names were changed, etc.

The Cold War shortened some of the post WWII stuff because we were aligned with West Germany against communism

The Marshall Plan provided crucial financial and material assistance to West Germany after World War II.  Aid and FundingPercentage of Aid: West Germany received about 10% to 11% of the total Marshall Plan funds, amounting to roughly $1.4 billion. Counterpart Funds: Imports like food and fuel were sold locally, and the earnings went into special funds used to give loans for rebuilding businesses and infrastructure. As for the Japanese, well they ain't white, amirite?
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1654 on: Today at 02:29:21 PM »
Quote from: Custard on Today at 12:12:33 PM

Palentinians aren’t even a distinct race, so I’m not sure how it’s super racist.

I don’t agree with what these young women (who appeared to have just been minding their own business shopping or something) have to say, but also remember that they’ve experienced brutal attacks at the hands of these people in their homeland and are actively at war with them. A conflict that spans generations.

I’m sure they’re getting blasted with as much anti-Palestinian propaganda as you are pro-Palestinian propaganda.

You do have to give them that. They got attacked from Gaza, and they attacked Gaza. The US got attacked by the Saudis on 9/11 and we responded by invading two other, distinct countries.
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« Reply #1655 on: Today at 02:30:55 PM »
The guy who made all his blood money on tech supporting AI calling everyone else an "AI shill" is an interesting angle right out of Tempo's DSA/Progressive playbook....
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« Reply #1656 on: Today at 02:33:13 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on Today at 02:30:55 PM
The guy who made all his blood money on tech supporting AI calling everyone else an "AI shill" is an interesting angle right out of Tempo's DSA/Progressive playbook....

I was in the gaming division, and left when the company pivoted. I did make some blood money selling new graphics cards to Custard in his Quixotic quest to not suck at doom.
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« Reply #1657 on: Today at 02:37:25 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on Today at 02:33:13 PM
I was in the gaming division, and left when the company pivoted. I did make some blood money selling new graphics cards to Custard in his Quixotic quest to not suck at doom.

Murph in charge of Grand Theft Auto allowing you to earn extra points by running over people on bicycles is a thing.....
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1658 on: Today at 02:58:31 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on Today at 02:37:25 PM
Murph in charge of Grand Theft Auto allowing you to earn extra points by running over people on bicycles is a thing.....

I will assist you here, Mr. Murphstahoe. No, Grand Theft Auto does not award points, cash bonuses, or rank points for running over standard NPC or player bicyclists.

What Actually Happens

Wanted Level: Running over a pedestrian or bicyclist on a public street can trigger a police response (typically 1 star) if witnessed by law enforcement.

Physics & Fun: Players often do it for emergent sandbox chaos or ragdoll physics, as noted by community discussions on Reddit.

Specific Modes/Races: In structured GTA Races or Deathmatches, hitting opponents might count toward general kill/combat stats or specific award criteria (like Rockstar Games Awards), not unique "bicyclist points."
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1659 on: Today at 03:43:55 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on Today at 10:58:53 AM
Same person ....

Rania
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I'm deeply alarmed that israel still exists!

It doesn’t change what’s in the video.
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« Reply #1660 on: Today at 03:45:01 PM »
When the best you can do is attack the person who shared the material, you know you’ve lost.
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« Reply #1661 on: Today at 03:49:14 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on Today at 03:45:01 PM
When the best you can do is attack the person who shared the material, you know you’ve lost.

Unless it is fake?
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« Reply #1662 on: Today at 03:55:33 PM »
There is evidence of ideological double standards in political behavior generally. A 2024 peer-reviewed study examining “cancel culture” found that people's responses can depend both on the values invoked and on group identity—including whose side the target is perceived to be on.

People often judge the same tactic differently depending on who is using it, whom it targets, and whether they agree with the underlying cause. 

This is what you see on HQ2 daily.
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« Reply #1663 on: Today at 03:56:42 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on Today at 03:45:01 PM
When the best you can do is attack the person who shared the material, you know you’ve lost.

Sorry Mr. Reacher, that's a recognizable debate tactic, but the conclusion doesn't necessarily follow.

If someone responds to evidence by attacking the person who presented it instead of addressing the evidence itself, that's an ad hominem argument. It doesn't establish whether the material is true or false.

But criticizing the source isn't automatically an ad hominem fallacy. The source's credibility, incentives, methodology, context, and whether the material was authenticated can all be relevant to determining whether the evidence is reliable.

A stronger principle would be: If you want to refute a claim, address the evidence and reasoning behind it—not merely the character of the person presenting it.
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