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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1335 on: July 02, 2026, 03:02:36 PM »
Seems Nikki Haley disagrees with Custard!

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1336 on: July 02, 2026, 03:05:14 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 02, 2026, 02:40:19 PM
nb!!
Any other definitions are bastardizations brought about because Socialism and Socialist share a whole word with programs, entitlements, government programs and interventions, etc and people can’t keep them straight. I used to be guilty of it myself.

I also think it’s somewhere intentional on the part of actual Socialists to let people assume every well-meant social program is Socialism. It furthers their cause amongst people who don’t know any better and want more safety net or handouts or whatever.  Two or three decades the vast majority of American people wouldn’t be caught dead attaching Socialist to their name, and for good reason.

So many of the things you have called Socialism cannot be Socialism because the means of production remain private. Social programs do not equal Socialism. It’s an important distinction.

Dude. Give it up. You’re wrong. “Capitalistic” societies can and do have some “socialist” policies. Fire Departments, the military,  the federal highway system, and Medicare being prime examples. We live in a mixed economy. Give it up.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1337 on: July 02, 2026, 03:13:36 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 02, 2026, 03:05:14 PM
Dude. Give it up. You’re wrong. “Capitalistic” societies can and do have some “socialist” policies. Fire Departments, the military,  the federal highway system, and Medicare being prime examples. We live in a mixed economy. Give it up.

Having a military is socialist? Think they have been around well before the 1700s and the 1800s when "socialism" was birthed. 
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« Reply #1338 on: July 02, 2026, 03:23:23 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on July 02, 2026, 03:13:36 PM
Having a military is socialist? Think they have been around well before the 1700s and the 1800s when "socialism" was birthed.

You pay into a shared commodity, right?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1339 on: July 02, 2026, 03:24:43 PM »
The government can draft your kid and send him to war if they want. That doesn’t seem to “capitalist.”
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1340 on: July 02, 2026, 03:26:04 PM »
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« Reply #1341 on: July 02, 2026, 03:26:48 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 02, 2026, 03:23:23 PM
You pay into a shared commodity, right?

Taxes are socialism!
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« Reply #1342 on: July 02, 2026, 03:28:19 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 02, 2026, 03:24:43 PM
The government can draft your kid and send him to war if they want. That doesn’t seem to “capitalist.”

A military draft is socialism now?

You are doing yeoman's work here to normalize a failed ideology.
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« Reply #1343 on: July 02, 2026, 03:29:14 PM »
Quote from: Custard on July 02, 2026, 03:26:04 PM


Karl Marx wearing a Fields Chief jersey would be something....
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« Reply #1344 on: July 02, 2026, 03:36:59 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 02, 2026, 03:02:36 PM
Seems Nikki Haley disagrees with Custard!



True socialists do not have AC. Or ice cubes for their drinks!
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« Reply #1345 on: July 02, 2026, 05:06:55 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1346 on: July 02, 2026, 05:33:28 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 02, 2026, 03:05:14 PM
Dude. Give it up. You’re wrong. “Capitalistic” societies can and do have some “socialist” policies. Fire Departments, the military,  the federal highway system, and Medicare being prime examples. We live in a mixed economy. Give it up.

Mass transit systems are heavily subsidized toom As is agriculture. Also energy. And education.

Collective, co-ops, unions, and nonprofits can be examples of socialism at work..

The United States is a Social Democracy, albeit a bit dysfunctional one, despite the frenzied scare tactics of the right wing..

Dunno if I would include the military and law enforcement as socialist since they mainly exist to protect the wealthy.
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« Reply #1347 on: July 02, 2026, 08:02:36 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on July 02, 2026, 05:33:28 PM
Mass transit systems are heavily subsidized toom As is agriculture. Also energy. And education.

Collective, co-ops, unions, and nonprofits can be examples of socialism at work..

The United States is a Social Democracy, albeit a bit dysfunctional one, despite the frenzied scare tactics of the right wing..

Dunno if I would include the military and law enforcement as socialist since they mainly exist to protect the wealthy.

Welcome to the Revolution, Nichi!

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1348 on: July 02, 2026, 08:11:25 PM »
This is how you handle the “Does Israel have a right to exist” ruse.

https://x.com/barbarismcrit/status/2072788899714175269?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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« Reply #1349 on: July 02, 2026, 08:39:13 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on July 02, 2026, 03:02:36 PM
Seems Nikki Haley disagrees with Custard!



Mamdani taking a page out of the public utilities' playbook.  They often issue urgent messages (text and app-based) during heat waves, asking customers to voluntarily reduce energy use to prevent rolling blackouts.

Public utility companies:  socialism or not socialism?   Depends on who you ask.
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