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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #990 on: May 08, 2026, 10:11:39 PM »
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I mean, if we just forget about the fact that we’ve decimated their armed forces, wiped out of most of their key extremist leaders, put an enormous toll on their economy and ability to fund terrorism and build nukes, etc, then sure.

The Strait doesn’t even really matter to us. Almost nothing comes through it that we can’t produce on our own. And it’s strangling Iran’s own economy.

Opening it is mostly lip service and a red herring.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #991 on: May 08, 2026, 10:41:27 PM »
The Strait doesn’t even really matter to us. Almost nothing comes through it that we can’t produce on our own. And it’s strangling Iran’s own economy.

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #992 on: May 08, 2026, 11:03:05 PM »
Let's not forget these accomplishments:
 
As of April 2026, the ongoing conflict following the Feb. 28, 2026, start of hostilities has caused significant civilian casualties in Iran, with reports indicating over 1,700 to 2,100+ civilian deaths resulting primarily from U.S. and Israeli airstrikes. Key areas, including Tehran and Hormozgan, have been heavily affected, with widespread infrastructure damage and over 3 million people displaced.

Key Civilian Casualty Data (As of April 2026)Total Deaths:

-At least 1,701 to over 2,100 civilians killed in Iran.

-Children and Women: Hundreds of children and women are among the deceased, including reported deaths of over 200 children.

-Key Incidents: A Feb. 28 strike on a school in Minab resulted in the deaths of over 150 civilians, including 120 schoolchildren.

-Impact on Infrastructure: More than 20,000 civilian structures, including homes, hospitals, and schools, have been damaged or destroyed.

Regional Impact:

-In addition to fatalities in Iran, the conflict has caused casualties in Lebanon (700+ deaths) and Iraq.

Contextual Details

-Conflict Start: The conflict, dubbed Operation Epic Fury/Roaring Lion, began on February 28, 2026.

-Data Challenges: Independent verification is difficult due to restricted access and internet shutdowns in Iran.

-Displacement: Up to 3.2 million people have been temporarily displaced within Iran.

-Health System Impact: Numerous hospitals and emergency stations have been disabled, with over 10,000 injuries reported.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #993 on: May 08, 2026, 11:12:00 PM »
The new goal in the war in Iran is to open the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump prioritizes himself.  Whatever is in his immediate self-interest is the only priority to him.

Right now, he's getting flack for high oil and gas prices.  So he desperately wants to do something about it.

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #994 on: May 08, 2026, 11:28:32 PM »
Meanwhile, Trump's domestic policies, such as the wars on the poor and immigrants, are beginning to have similar effects here: increased homeless & food insecurity, loss of access to healthcare...
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #995 on: Today at 08:58:20 AM »
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.