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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #600 on: May 17, 2026, 01:02:08 PM »
Got a link for your fake news about fake news ?

www.google.com

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #601 on: May 17, 2026, 03:45:45 PM »
Pritzker confident FEMA will provide disaster relief to Kankakee County tornado victims

Gov. JB Pritzker toured tornado damage in Kankakee County on Thursday, and said he’s confident that the Federal Emergency Management Agency will provide disaster assistance for storm victims, even though political friction between the governor and the Trump administration has gotten in the way of disaster relief funding for Illinois in the past.
Mar 12, 2026
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #602 on: May 17, 2026, 07:48:50 PM »
Pritzker confident FEMA will provide disaster relief to Kankakee County tornado victims

Gov. JB Pritzker toured tornado damage in Kankakee County on Thursday, and said he’s confident that the Federal Emergency Management Agency will provide disaster assistance for storm victims, even though political friction between the governor and the Trump administration has gotten in the way of disaster relief funding for Illinois in the past.
Mar 12, 2026
CBS, eh.

From Fox  :D ....

We asked the governor how much money could potentially be available to the impacted communities, including the possibility for federal disaster money. Pritzker said it starts with a state assessment of the damage, then making sure affected residents have shelter immediately, and then they can determine how many community resources and infrastructure will be impacted.

"I can't put a number for you, because we don't have that assessment yet," said Pritzker. "You asked about the federal government, what comes before the federal assistance is the assessment, then we go to the federal government to FEMA and show them what the damage is, and if it meets a threshold then FEMA considers what they're going to provide resources from the federal government. We expect that they would and they should. I can tell by just looking around this looks like a circumstance where federal resources will be triggered and should come to this community."

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/gov-pritzker-tours-damage-around-kankakee-aroma-park
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #603 on: May 17, 2026, 11:18:45 PM »
Published  March 12, 2026

That's channel 32. Saying the same thing as channel 2. There is nothing more recent I can find.
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« Reply #604 on: Today at 07:12:14 AM »
Published  March 12, 2026

That's channel 32. Saying the same thing as channel 2. There is nothing more recent I can find.
I have no idea how you can arrive at the conclusion that Pritzker has requested FEMA aid.
Your CBS post surely doesn't say it.

The Fox post explains the steps that the state takes before requesting FEMA aid, whereas the CBS post doesn't.
I also don't see how you can say that the 2 posts say the same.

Apparently there is no reporting, other than on HQ2, that Pritzker actually has requested FEMA aid.

The SBA has stepped in with low interest loans.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #605 on: Today at 08:15:19 AM »
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #606 on: Today at 09:08:31 AM »

Are you moving away from the 'it's the economy, stupid' reasons for the food bank line ?

Got a link for the youtube vid ?

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"As of the latest available reports (into May 2026), there is no public confirmation of a formal gubernatorial request for a presidential major disaster declaration being submitted or approved. No such declaration appears on FEMA’s list of recent Illinois disasters.

fema.gov


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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #607 on: Today at 09:39:41 AM »
President Donald Trump has radically restructured FEMA during his second term, shifting it from a primary disaster responder to a secondary support agency. After initially floating ideas to dismantle the agency entirely, his administration focused on cutting the federal footprint, forcing states to assume primary responsibility for disaster recovery.

Structural Downsizing and Staffing Cuts

The administration has aggressively minimized FEMA's internal workforce:Staff Reductions:

*FEMA lost roughly one-third of its full-time staff through a combination of targeted firings—including over 200 headquarters and regional employees—forced retirements, and resignations.

*Contract Cuts: The administration declined to renew multiyear contracts for thousands of temporary and on-call disaster field workers.Leadership

*Volatility: The abrupt termination of acting leaders and subsequent mass resignations of top career officials have left the agency without stable, permanent leadership.

Policy Shifts and Funding Delays

The administration has transformed how federal disaster relief is evaluated and approved:

*Slowed Disaster Declarations: The White House has significantly slow-walked or initially rejected federal disaster declaration requests from state governors, compelling local jurisdictions to exhaust their own resources before federal aid arrives.

*Withholding Disaster Funds: FEMA has quietly rationed its Disaster Relief Fund (DRF), prioritizing immediate life-saving metrics while deferring or withholding billions of dollars in promised long-term recovery reimbursements owed to states.

*Rollback of Climate and Flood Rules: FEMA eliminated all references to climate change from its official Hazard

*Disaster Preparedness Cuts: The administration aggressively rolled back the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities (BRIC) program. It froze and canceled billions in pre-disaster mitigation grants meant to help communities build protections against future storms, though it faced multiple state lawsuits and legal setbacks over the freeze.

*Mitigation Assistance guidance. It also rescinded stricter federal flood risk protection standards for buildings constructed with federal funds.

The FEMA Review Council's Final Proposals

The presidentially appointed FEMA Review Council released its final sweeping reform recommendations, explicitly aimed at cementing a "states figure it out" doctrine. The core components of this plan include:

*Direct Lump-Sum Payments: Replacing the traditional, documented reimbursement model with single, upfront block payments to states within 30 days of a disaster.

*Strict Performance Metrics: Linking future federal allocations to state-level performance metrics in handling disasters independently.

*Upended Survivor Housing: Moving FEMA entirely out of long-term housing recovery. Survivor assistance would be restricted to short-term emergency shelters and capped at a single, one-time payment for individuals whose homes are fully uninhabitable.

*Privatizing Flood Insurance: Phasing down the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP)—which carries over $20 billion in debt—and forcing the majority of flood insurance policies into the private market.

While the administration touts these actions as a way to cut bureaucratic red tape and double the speed of immediate emergency response, emergency management experts and local officials warn that the policies place an unsustainable financial and operational burden on states.
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #608 on: Today at 09:47:20 AM »
Are you moving away from the 'it's the economy, stupid' reasons for the food bank line ?

Got a link for the youtube vid ?

The March 10 storm and the FEMA restructuring probably contributed to longer than usual lines at area food pantries.

I use Google. Or go directly to YouTube and enter key words.
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« Reply #609 on: Today at 09:54:43 AM »
President Donald Trump has radically restructured FEMA during his second term, shifting it from a primary disaster responder to a secondary support agency. After initially floating ideas to dismantle the agency entirely, his administration focused on cutting the federal footprint, forcing states to assume primary responsibility for disaster recovery.

Structural Downsizing and Staffing Cuts

The administration has aggressively minimized FEMA's internal workforce:Staff Reductions:

*FEMA lost roughly one-third of its full-time staff through a combination of targeted firings—including over 200 headquarters and regional employees—forced retirements, and resignations.

*Contract Cuts: The administration declined to renew multiyear contracts for thousands of temporary and on-call disaster field workers.Leadership

*Volatility: The abrupt termination of acting leaders and subsequent mass resignations of top career officials have left the agency without stable, permanent leadership.

Policy Shifts and Funding Delays

The administration has transformed how federal disaster relief is evaluated and approved:

*Slowed Disaster Declarations: The White House has significantly slow-walked or initially rejected federal disaster declaration requests from state governors, compelling local jurisdictions to exhaust their own resources before federal aid arrives.

*Withholding Disaster Funds: FEMA has quietly rationed its Disaster Relief Fund (DRF), prioritizing immediate life-saving metrics while deferring or withholding billions of dollars in promised long-term recovery reimbursements owed to states.

*Rollback of Climate and Flood Rules: FEMA eliminated all references to climate change from its official Hazard

*Disaster Preparedness Cuts: The administration aggressively rolled back the Building Resilient Infrastructure and Communities (BRIC) program. It froze and canceled billions in pre-disaster mitigation grants meant to help communities build protections against future storms, though it faced multiple state lawsuits and legal setbacks over the freeze.

*Mitigation Assistance guidance. It also rescinded stricter federal flood risk protection standards for buildings constructed with federal funds.

The FEMA Review Council's Final Proposals

The presidentially appointed FEMA Review Council released its final sweeping reform recommendations, explicitly aimed at cementing a "states figure it out" doctrine. The core components of this plan include:

*Direct Lump-Sum Payments: Replacing the traditional, documented reimbursement model with single, upfront block payments to states within 30 days of a disaster.

*Strict Performance Metrics: Linking future federal allocations to state-level performance metrics in handling disasters independently.

*Upended Survivor Housing: Moving FEMA entirely out of long-term housing recovery. Survivor assistance would be restricted to short-term emergency shelters and capped at a single, one-time payment for individuals whose homes are fully uninhabitable.

*Privatizing Flood Insurance: Phasing down the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP)—which carries over $20 billion in debt—and forcing the majority of flood insurance policies into the private market.

While the administration touts these actions as a way to cut bureaucratic red tape and double the speed of immediate emergency response, emergency management experts and local officials warn that the policies place an unsustainable financial and operational burden on states.
This appears to be similar to your the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is a racist effort where you shifted to a 2019 position by Roberts.

Where has it been reported that Pritzker requested FEMA aid, because he surely wasn't able to on March 12 ?
How did you arrive at saying the Fox reporting says the same as the CBS reporting regarding the tornadoes ?

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #610 on: Today at 11:19:03 AM »
Are you moving away from the 'it's the economy, stupid' reasons for the food bank line ?

Got a link for the youtube vid ?

AI
"As of the latest available reports (into May 2026), there is no public confirmation of a formal gubernatorial request for a presidential major disaster declaration being submitted or approved. No such declaration appears on FEMA’s list of recent Illinois disasters.

fema.gov

What even the fuck

“Food bank line, trumps economy bad”

“Maybe they are from the tornadoes because Pritzker didn’t ask FEMA for aid”

“Citation showing preparation for FEMA request”

“That doesn’t mean he actually requested the money”

“Citation showing the request was made”

“AHA! You admit the food bank line is not due to Trumps economy! Checkmate!”

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #611 on: Today at 11:20:38 AM »
Posts photo of high gas prices

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« Reply #612 on: Today at 11:27:37 AM »
Where has it been reported that Pritzker requested FEMA aid, because he surely wasn't able to on March 12 ?
How did you arrive at saying the Fox reporting says the same as the CBS reporting regarding the tornadoes ?

The Fox reporting you cited is the Chicago area fox broadcast station, not Fox News Channel. What makes you think they reported something different from the CBS station?

SPRINGFIELD–In order to verify damage from the storms and tornadoes March 10-11, preliminary damage assessment (PDA) teams will go door-to-door on Wednesday, March 25 through at least Thursday, March 26. These teams will include representatives from the Kankakee County Emergency Management Agency, Illinois Emergency Management Agency (IEMA), Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA).
https://www.illinois.gov/news/release.html?releaseid=32320

The fact that FEMA was part PDA teams suggests to me that Governor Pritzker sought and is seeking FEMA help.

The absence of info at the FEMA likely just means it hasn't been approved.

Note this:

SPRINGFIELD – The Trump Administration through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has officially denied the State of Illinois’ appeal for a major disaster declaration following severe storms, straight-line winds, and flooding that impacted multiple counties from August 16–19, 2025.

https://www.illinois.gov/news/release.html?releaseid=32183

I don't see that info at the FEMA disaster declarations site for obvious reasons:
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/4728

Is there a FEMA site that lists pending and declined applications?

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« Reply #613 on: Today at 11:40:40 AM »
This appears to be similar to your the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is a racist effort where you shifted to a 2019 position by Roberts.

You missed the point that time too.

The point was Roberts is a pernicious racist, not an overt racist. It is actually kind of normal in a way for a person with his background. It's a problem that has to be overcome  vis self awareness and appropriate effort.

Note that Roberts recently ruled that racial gerrymandering violates equal protection. Yet, in 2019, he ruled that political gerrymandering is just fine.
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« Reply #614 on: Today at 11:44:13 AM »
The Fox reporting you cited is the Chicago area fox broadcast station, not Fox News Channel. What makes you think they reported something different from the CBS station?

The fact that FEMA was part PDA teams suggests to me that Governor Pritzker sought and is seeking FEMA help.

Is there a FEMA site that lists pending and declined applications?


I read what you posted from CBS.
I read what was posted from the Fox site.
There is a difference and I explained it.

Something suggesting to you that Pritzker sought FEMA relief is not evidence of Pritzker seeking FEMA aid.

You tell me if there is a FEMA site that lists pending applications and status.
You said the aid has been requested. I assume you have evidence of that ?