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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #570 on: April 30, 2026, 06:00:59 PM »
Indiana appears to have a higher gas tax than Illinois

This is all 3 card monte anyway. Florida has no income tax! Yay! Florida has the highest property taxes in the Nation! Boo!

You pay to pave the roads one way or the other. I prefer to have higher gas taxes instead of higher sales taxes or property taxes.

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« Reply #571 on: April 30, 2026, 06:09:08 PM »
Or just plain bullshit…

This one is actually pretty funny when you unpack it. The Federal gas tax can only be used on Federal Highways, signed as Interstates or US-XXX routes. State gas taxes can only be used on State Highways, for example Illinois-47 that I used to take from Dwight to Champaign.

Illinois state highway system is quite extensive. Indiana on the other hand, has far fewer state signed roadway miles than Illinois, and far more local roads. Local roads are paid for primarily by sales taxes. Indiana's sales tax is higher than Illinois sales tax - in large part because they need the sales tax money to make up for their lower gas tax in order to pave local roads. Total annual sales of items subject to sales taxes swamp annual gasoline taxes.

To add insult to the three card monte, the higher sales tax is imposed on the price of gas, so there is a hidden 5 cent per gallon additional tax on gasoline for Hoosiers at current prices - with the caveat that Indiana passed a special law suspending the sales tax on Gasoline thanks to the Iran war.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #572 on: April 30, 2026, 07:55:34 PM »
Lol it’s a dollar less across the state line, thank your tax and spend liberal run state

You mean the states with the much lower GDPs?
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #573 on: April 30, 2026, 07:57:18 PM »
The typical pompous, elitist loonytarian perspective that I would expect from Custard. 


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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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« Reply #574 on: April 30, 2026, 09:13:14 PM »
Come on AI guy, you should know better than that…

It's complicated.
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #575 on: April 30, 2026, 09:25:19 PM »
Is this "factual" or "mostly factual?"

A pre-nap estimation. Note the words appears to be. It's complicated. They also offset fuel taxes with higher registration fees and taxes.

They sure as hell don't pay a dollar less in gas taxes.
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #576 on: April 30, 2026, 10:44:46 PM »
A pre-nap estimation. Note the words appears to be. It's complicated. They also offset fuel taxes with higher registration fees and taxes.

They sure as hell don't pay a dollar less in gas taxes.

And their roads are pretty crappy.
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #577 on: May 01, 2026, 11:34:55 PM »
“Fertilizer pre-booking rates varied significantly by region, with just 19% of Southern producers reporting fertilizer purchases secured ahead of the season, compared to 30% in the Northeast, 31% in the West and 67% in the Midwest, reflecting differences in planting decision timelines and exposure to recent price increases.”

“Fertilizer affordability challenges are most acute in the South and Northeast but remain a concern for farmers across all regions. Around 70% of respondents report being unable to afford all the fertilizer they need.”

“Farm diesel prices have increased 46% since the end of February, raising costs for fieldwork, fertilizer transport and irrigation during both planting and growing seasons.”

“Nearly six in 10 farmers report worsening finances, reflecting rising fertilizer and fuel costs during spring planting and underscoring the urgent need for immediate economic assistance to keep farms gates open.”
https://www.fb.org/market-intel/farm-bureau-survey-reveals-real-impact-of-fertilizer-availability-and-price

So 81% of the Southern farmers, 70% of the Northeastern farmers, 69% of the Western farmers and 33% of the Midwestern farmers are “sad hobby farmers” or “fucking morons.” 

I’d like to see you call that to their faces and get quickly knocked off your pedestal.

There’s a lot of terms in here doing a lot of heavy lifting, like any other politically slanted piece you post.

“Afford ‘ALL’ their fertilizer”

6 in 10 (we don’t reduce fractions anymore?) report worsening finances. Well that’s been going on for years for myriad reasons, many of which don’t have fuck all to do with Trump or Iran

The percentages by region are slanted depending who they actually surveyed. Spoke with a colleague of mine who is a successful independent ag retailer in the Mississippi delta for two hours the other day when I was on the road to Indy. I asked him specifically about the fertilizer issue that has been posted here repeatedly and he said all his good farmers are doing ok. The guys that are always scraping to get by, well, they’re struggling. The same farmers who are only in business due to the subsidies Murph hates.

Different regions grow different crops and have different fertilizer needs. The reason the Midwest locked in prices early is that they use more in season fert that’s more susceptible to massive price swings. Other regions would have already applied more fertilizer last fall and/or grow more legumes that don’t really even need in-season fertilizer.

Good farmers that farm for a living don’t expose themselves to increases in their biggest expenses. People with jobs in town that farm on the side usually don’t worry that much about it. Just so happens this year screwed them. It’s almost always better to buy in the fall than the spring and they should know that.

This Farm Bureau piece is nothing more than a very thinly veiled appeal for government relief for the people who pay the Farm Bureau’s bills. Keep sharing it, I want farmers to have as much money to spend as possible.
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #578 on: May 02, 2026, 01:42:38 AM »
Good to know that the purpoted casual farmers are not part of the food chain
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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #579 on: May 02, 2026, 09:09:33 AM »
Trump causes Spirit Airlines to go bankrupt

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #580 on: May 02, 2026, 11:55:21 AM »
And tomatoes go through the roof. I’ rarely see romas over $1.49. They are $2.99 at Woodman’s (which is usually dirt cheap on tomatoes). Cost me $4.52 to get 6 on the vine tomatoes (small ones).
"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #581 on: May 02, 2026, 07:43:03 PM »
And tomatoes go through the roof. I’ rarely see romas over $1.49. They are $2.99 at Woodman’s (which is usually dirt cheap on tomatoes). Cost me $4.52 to get 6 on the vine tomatoes (small ones).

Plant your garden man.

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Re: Da Economy
« Reply #582 on: May 02, 2026, 11:35:46 PM »

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« Reply #583 on: Today at 07:06:11 AM »
Thanks Pete.
Not that they got a buck from me tho.