WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

illiniray

9366
+628/-2099

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1305 on: February 08, 2026, 08:02:24 PM »

I fully support the right of women to bare arms, and legs ...

Logged

“Taking a trip? Where to?” -“Wherever I end up, I guess. -“Man, I wish I was you." -Well, hang in there.”

Judge Judy

11933
+120/-1812

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1306 on: February 08, 2026, 08:51:25 PM »

Quote from: illiniray on February 08, 2026, 08:02:24 PM

I fully support the right of women to bare arms, and legs ...

We agree…

Logged

Because FOX News told me so…

HQ2 Cesspool March Madness champion 🏆

murphstahoe

8288
+2004/-143

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1307 on: February 08, 2026, 11:25:27 PM »

Quote from: Judge Judy on February 08, 2026, 07:41:20 PM

And if you shoot somebody it’s the person committing the illegal act, not the gun! Glad we agree!

We have a very strict licensing provision for Drivers licenses, testing, re-testing, and those found to be driving outside of provisions can have their license revoked and their vehicle impounded.

To address drunk driving via checkpoints where drivers found to be driving drunk are arrested.

I would be absolutely on board with your presumed desire to put similar restrictions on gun owners.

Logged

ThePAMan

31797
+609/-2447
Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1308 on: February 09, 2026, 07:47:40 AM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on February 08, 2026, 11:25:27 PM

We have a very strict licensing provision for Drivers licenses, testing, re-testing, and those found to be driving outside of provisions can have their license revoked and their vehicle impounded.

To address drunk driving via checkpoints where drivers found to be driving drunk are arrested.

I would be absolutely on board with your presumed desire to put similar restrictions on gun owners.

The problem you have is one is in The Constitution and the other isn't.

Logged

Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

murphstahoe

8288
+2004/-143

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1309 on: February 09, 2026, 10:32:22 AM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2026, 07:47:40 AM

The problem you have is one is in The Constitution and the other isn't.

Read the Constitution from start to finish, and after each Amendment, tell me if you can drink alcohol.

Logged

ThePAMan

31797
+609/-2447
Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1310 on: February 09, 2026, 11:27:10 AM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on February 09, 2026, 10:32:22 AM

Read the Constitution from start to finish, and after each Amendment, tell me if you can drink alcohol.

The regulation of alcohol is left to the states after the 14th Amendment was repealed.

The Second Amendment does not leave regulation of guns to the states and protects your right to bear arms.

As mentioned, one right is protected the other, not so much.

Logged

Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

illiniray

9366
+628/-2099

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1311 on: February 09, 2026, 11:33:23 AM »

Just because a right is not enumerated in the Constitution, does not mean it does not exist. Also, the meaning of the 2nd amendment is still debatable.

That said, the Courts presently

*View operating a motor vehicle as a privilege granted and regulated by the state

*View the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right subject to reasonable limits

-------------
AI Overview:

Key Limitations on the Second Amendment include:

-Prohibited Persons: Restrictions on possession by felons, individuals with certain mental illnesses, or those under domestic violence restraining orders.

-Sensitive Places: Bans on carrying weapons in schools, government buildings, polling sites, and airports.

-Weapon Types: Restrictions on certain types of weapons, such as fully automatic machine guns, or, in some jurisdictions, assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

-Commercial/Public Regulation: Laws regarding background checks, concealed carry permits, and licensing are generally upheld.

The Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) affirmed that the right is not a right to "keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose".
-----------

Logged

“Taking a trip? Where to?” -“Wherever I end up, I guess. -“Man, I wish I was you." -Well, hang in there.”

ThePAMan

31797
+609/-2447
Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1312 on: February 09, 2026, 11:37:56 AM »

Quote from: illiniray on February 09, 2026, 11:33:23 AM

Just because a right is not enumerated in the Constitution, does not mean it does not exist. Also, the meaning of the 2nd amendment is still debatable.

That said, the Courts presently

*View operating a motor vehicle as a privilege granted and regulated by the state

*View the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right subject to reasonable limits

-------------
AI Overview:

Key Limitations on the Second Amendment include:

-Prohibited Persons: Restrictions on possession by felons, individuals with certain mental illnesses, or those under domestic violence restraining orders.

-Sensitive Places: Bans on carrying weapons in schools, government buildings, polling sites, and airports.

-Weapon Types: Restrictions on certain types of weapons, such as fully automatic machine guns, or, in some jurisdictions, assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

-Commercial/Public Regulation: Laws regarding background checks, concealed carry permits, and licensing are generally upheld.

The Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) affirmed that the right is not a right to "keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose".
-----------

Murph was discussing two "rights," one of which is enshrined in the Constitution and the other isn't. The distinction is relevant to his post.

Logged

Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

illiniray

9366
+628/-2099

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1313 on: February 09, 2026, 11:42:07 AM »

At least 20-26 states have specific laws restricting the possession or discharge of firearms while intoxicated, treating it as a serious criminal offense, often a misdemeanor or felony. These laws typically prohibit using or carrying guns while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, with penalties including fines, jail time, and revocation of concealed carry permits.

Key aspects of state laws regarding firearms and intoxication include:

Specific State Examples:

*Ohio: It is illegal to carry or use any firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, classified as a first-degree misdemeanor Ohio Revised Code.

*llinois: The Firearm Concealed Carry Act prohibits carrying a concealed weapon under the influence of alcohol or drugs, with penalties ranging from Class A misdemeanors to Class 4 felonies.

*Florida: Using a firearm (discharging or holding) while intoxicated can result in up to 60 days in jail.

*Virginia: Carrying a concealed handgun while under the influence is a Class 1 misdemeanor, leading to a five-year permit revocation and up to 12 months in jail.

*Oklahoma: It is unlawful to carry or use rifles, shotguns, or pistols while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, per 21 O.S. § 21-1289.9.

-Definition of Intoxication: While some states use the legal driving limit of 0.08% blood alcohol content (BAC), others define it as being "under the influence" to a degree that impairs judgment, which can apply even below the 0.08% threshold.

-Possession vs. Discharge: Laws often cover more than just firing; simply possessing or carrying a firearm while intoxicated is illegal in many jurisdictions.

-Consequences: Penalties frequently include significant fines, jail sentences, suspension or permanent revocation of concealed carry licenses, and potential felony charges for repeat offenders.

Logged

“Taking a trip? Where to?” -“Wherever I end up, I guess. -“Man, I wish I was you." -Well, hang in there.”

illiniray

9366
+628/-2099

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1314 on: February 09, 2026, 11:50:44 AM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2026, 11:37:56 AM

Murph was discussing two "rights," one of which is enshrined in the Constitution and the other isn't. The distinction is relevant to his post.

There are differences. One is a right, the other is a conditional privilege. But states can and do restrict the use of firearms while intoxicated.

Logged

“Taking a trip? Where to?” -“Wherever I end up, I guess. -“Man, I wish I was you." -Well, hang in there.”

ThePAMan

31797
+609/-2447
Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1315 on: February 09, 2026, 12:07:57 PM »

Quote from: illiniray on February 09, 2026, 11:50:44 AM

There are differences. One is a right, the other is a conditional privilege. But states can and do restrict the use of firearms while intoxicated.

When he's taking about checkpoints, he's going far beyond what you are talking about.

Logged

Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

murphstahoe

8288
+2004/-143

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1316 on: February 09, 2026, 02:55:15 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2026, 11:27:10 AM

The regulation of alcohol is left to the states after the 14th Amendment was repealed.

Stephen Miller just read your post and had a triple orgasm

Logged

murphstahoe

8288
+2004/-143

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1317 on: February 09, 2026, 02:58:49 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2026, 11:27:10 AM

The Second Amendment does not leave regulation of guns to the states and protects your right to bear arms.

Guns? The word guns is not in there.

Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I cannot own a nuclear missile,

Logged

ThePAMan

31797
+609/-2447
Because "PussyMan" and "PenisMan" were trademarked

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1318 on: February 09, 2026, 04:50:17 PM »

Quote from: murphstahoe on February 09, 2026, 02:58:49 PM

Guns? The word guns is not in there.

Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I cannot own a nuclear missile,

Good luck with your interpretation of the Second Amendment. Otis McDonald, the retired maintenance guy, won his lawsuit.

Logged

Mark Carman: "The Whitlock!...Caleb Williams failed Wayne Whitlock." Been told I need to take my dick out my mouth so maybe I "wont [sic] sound like such a fucking faggot all the time[.]"

Tempo: "PAMan is a pot stirrer and agent provocateur"

murphstahoe

8288
+2004/-143

Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

« Reply #1319 on: February 09, 2026, 05:25:23 PM »

Quote from: ThePAMan on February 09, 2026, 04:50:17 PM

Good luck with your interpretation of the Second Amendment. Otis McDonald, the retired maintenance guy, won his lawsuit.

Dude you can’t tell the difference between the 14th and the 18th don’t be all I’m a constitutional scholar now

Logged