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WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #510 on: January 10, 2026, 12:09:19 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 12:04:53 PM
The vehicle was moving, what, 1 mph?

Also, all the videos show she had already turned her steering wheel, perhaps to avoid hitting the agents before the vehicle moved forward.

The vehicle did not accelerate until it was fully turned and after she had been shot. She was likely dead at that point.

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Rebecca Good yelled "Drive, baby, drive!" to her wife, Renee Nicole Good, in an attempt to get her to flee the scene during a tense confrontation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Minneapolis.

The sequence of events leading to the command was:

Rebecca and Renee Good were at a location where ICE was conducting an enforcement operation, reportedly to support their neighbors.

An ICE agent, Jonathan Ross, approached their vehicle while filming with his phone. Rebecca was outside the car, arguing with the agent, while Renee was in the driver's seat.

The situation escalated when another ICE agent ordered Renee to get out of the SUV.

At this point, as Renee began to reverse and then move the car forward, away from the agents, Rebecca shouted at her to "drive".

The agent then fired three shots into the car, fatally striking Renee.

The command to "drive" was an instruction to escape the confrontation with federal agents. The incident is the subject of intense debate, with the agent claiming self-defense and local officials and witnesses disputing that claim, stating Renee was trying to drive away and not strike the officer. Rebecca Good later expressed remorse, with a bystander video showing her saying "it's my fault" following the shooting.

Me: Normal people often blame themselves for bad incidents, thinking of only I had done something different, etc.


Wow AI obviously hasn’t seen the video.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #511 on: January 10, 2026, 12:16:22 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 10, 2026, 12:09:19 PM

Wow AI obviously hasn’t seen the video.

 We all tend to see things through our own filters.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #512 on: January 10, 2026, 12:18:39 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 12:16:22 PM
We all tend to see things through our own filters.

I already said this today, Nichi!
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #513 on: January 10, 2026, 12:19:48 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 12:04:53 PM
The vehicle was moving, what, 1 mph?

Also, all the videos show she had already turned her steering wheel, perhaps to avoid hitting the agents before the vehicle moved forward.

The vehicle did not accelerate until it was fully turned and after she had been shot. She was likely dead at that point.

AI overview

Rebecca Good yelled "Drive, baby, drive!" to her wife, Renee Nicole Good, in an attempt to get her to flee the scene during a tense confrontation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Minneapolis.

The sequence of events leading to the command was:

Rebecca and Renee Good were at a location where ICE was conducting an enforcement operation, reportedly to support their neighbors.

An ICE agent, Jonathan Ross, approached their vehicle while filming with his phone. Rebecca was outside the car, arguing with the agent, while Renee was in the driver's seat.

The situation escalated when another ICE agent ordered Renee to get out of the SUV.

At this point, as Renee began to reverse and then move the car forward, away from the agents, Rebecca shouted at her to "drive".

The agent then fired three shots into the car, fatally striking Renee.

The command to "drive" was an instruction to escape the confrontation with federal agents. The incident is the subject of intense debate, with the agent claiming self-defense and local officials and witnesses disputing that claim, stating Renee was trying to drive away and not strike the officer. Rebecca Good later expressed remorse, with a bystander video showing her saying "it's my fault" following the shooting.

Me: Normal people often blame themselves for bad incidents, thinking of only I had done something different, etc.

How many laws would you want a friend to break before realizing that maybe there might be something better to do ?
Normal people don't start with breaking laws. They're not your friend if they want you to break laws.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #514 on: January 10, 2026, 12:20:26 PM »
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As of January 2026, there are no verified official records, police reports, or court documents to support the claim that Renée Nicole Good’s partner, Rebecca (Becca) Good, abused children.

The allegations surfaced on social media platforms following the death of Renée Good in a Minneapolis shooting involving ICE agents on January 7, 2026. Fact-checkers and news outlets have identified these claims as unsubstantiated rumors.

Key Facts Regarding the Allegations:

*Source of the Rumor: The claims primarily originated from viral posts on X (formerly Twitter), specifically from an account that provided no proof or official references.

*Child Abuse Claims: Social media posts alleged that Rebecca was arrested for using cigarettes to burn children, but extensive searches of news and public records have found no evidence of such an arrest or charge.

*Custody Status: While social media posts claimed Renée lost custody of her two older children due to abuse, public records indicate these children lived with their biological father in another state under a pre-existing custody arrangement that preceded her relationship with Rebecca.

*Living Situation: At the time of her death, Renée had primary custody of her youngest son (age 6) and lived with him and Rebecca in Minneapolis. Neighbors described them as a "beautiful family" who were frequently seen playing outside together.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #515 on: January 10, 2026, 12:34:35 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on January 10, 2026, 12:19:48 PM
How many laws would you want a friend to break before realizing that maybe there might be something better to do ?
Normal people don't start with breaking laws. They're not your friend if they want you to break laws.

This is both true and completely irrelevant to my comment and the discussion in general.


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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #516 on: January 10, 2026, 12:38:05 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 12:34:35 PM
This is both true and completely irrelevant to my comment and the discussion in general.

Not really. It’s showing that maybe there’s a history and people you try to paint as “not breaking the law” might be doing exactly that. Much more than you realize. I mean that’s how y'all are painting and portraying ICE, right?!

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #517 on: January 10, 2026, 12:43:57 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 12:20:26 PM
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As of January 2026, there are no verified official records, police reports, or court documents to support the claim that Renée Nicole Good’s partner, Rebecca (Becca) Good, abused children.

The allegations surfaced on social media platforms following the death of Renée Good in a Minneapolis shooting involving ICE agents on January 7, 2026. Fact-checkers and news outlets have identified these claims as unsubstantiated rumors.

Key Facts Regarding the Allegations:

*Source of the Rumor: The claims primarily originated from viral posts on X (formerly Twitter), specifically from an account that provided no proof or official references.

*Child Abuse Claims: Social media posts alleged that Rebecca was arrested for using cigarettes to burn children, but extensive searches of news and public records have found no evidence of such an arrest or charge.

*Custody Status: While social media posts claimed Renée lost custody of her two older children due to abuse, public records indicate these children lived with their biological father in another state under a pre-existing custody arrangement that preceded her relationship with Rebecca.

*Living Situation: At the time of her death, Renée had primary custody of her youngest son (age 6) and lived with him and Rebecca in Minneapolis. Neighbors described them as a "beautiful family" who were frequently seen playing outside together.
Was the husband represented by Fathers' Rights attorney, Jeffrey M. Leving?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #518 on: January 10, 2026, 12:44:55 PM »
Renee Good was fatally shot by an ICE agent in January 2026 in Minneapolis. Disputed reports exist regarding whether she and her wife, Becca Good, were "stalking and impeding" ICE activities or acting as legal observers at the time, but neither were charged with crimes in connection with the incident.

Overview of the Incident

*Renee Good was a 37-year-old mother and U.S. citizen. She was part of a local group known as "ICE Watch" which trains participants to document and sometimes disrupt ICE activity.

*On the morning of the shooting, Renee and Becca Good encountered ICE agents conducting an operation. They stopped their vehicle in the street, and Becca exited to record the agents with her phone.

*The situation escalated when federal agents ordered Renee to exit the car. Video footage and witness accounts of what happened next are disputed, with some suggesting she was trying to drive away and others claiming she "weaponized her vehicle" to try to run over an agent. An agent, identified in court documents as Jonathan Ross, then fired shots into the vehicle, killing Renee.

Allegations of Criminal Activity

*Renee Good: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) alleged that Renee's actions were an "act of domestic terrorism" and that she tried to kill federal officers. However, local officials, including the Minneapolis Mayor and Minnesota Attorney General, rejected this characterization and described her as a "compassionate neighbor" acting as a legal observer. No criminal charges were filed against Renee because she was killed in the incident.

*Becca Good: Becca was at the scene and a witness to the shooting, later expressing guilt for asking her wife to come down to the scene. Authorities have not indicated that she faces any charges related to the incident.

The incident and the differing narratives from federal and local authorities have sparked a federal and local investigation.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #519 on: January 10, 2026, 12:46:10 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 12:34:35 PM
This is both true and completely irrelevant to my comment and the discussion in general.



Maybe this will help. If you have friends like this, find other friends,

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Felony murder is a legal doctrine (varying by jurisdiction) where someone can be charged with murder if a death occurs during the commission of certain felonies, even without direct intent to kill. In Minnesota (where the incident occurred), the statute includes scenarios like fleeing law enforcement or assaulting officers as qualifying felonies, and it can apply to accomplices/aiders. Federally, similar rules exist under statutes like 18 U.S.C. § 1111 for killings during federal crimes.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #520 on: January 10, 2026, 01:04:21 PM »
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Quote from: No one in Mn on January 10, 2026, 12:46:10 PM
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Felony murder is a legal doctrine (varying by jurisdiction) where someone can be charged with murder if a death occurs during the commission of certain felonies, even without direct intent to kill. In Minnesota (where the incident occurred), the statute includes scenarios like fleeing law enforcement or assaulting officers as qualifying felonies, and it can apply to accomplices/aiders. Federally, similar rules exist under statutes like 18 U.S.C. § 1111 for killings during federal crimes.

That would be bizarre. Charge Becca Good with felony murder in the death of her wife, Renee Good?

How about accessory to attempted murder of an ICE agent?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #521 on: January 10, 2026, 01:13:22 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 10, 2026, 01:04:21 PM
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That would be bizarre. Charge Becca Good with felony murder in the death of her wife, Renee Good?

If a conviction can be obtained it might send a message to some. It won't send a message to all.
Don't be a Becca Good.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #522 on: January 10, 2026, 01:16:39 PM »
How about Becca Good files a wrongful death lawsuit against homeland security, Ice Barbie,  and the agent?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #523 on: January 10, 2026, 01:17:10 PM »
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
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