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WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2025, 07:28:56 AM »
Custard and Murph both making big money off Trump! Trump bringing people together....
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2025, 10:13:37 AM »
I brought a sack of delicious cheeseburgers from the Moonlight General Store to his farm a few years back and had lunch in his shop with his wife and hired man.

Is that what the Gen Z call it? Some sort of code? "had lunch"?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2025, 10:14:34 AM »
Makes sense. Democrats ruin a state, Murph doesn’t care. Hurricane ruin a state, Murph blames the Republican governor.

Minnesota was ruined by the Norwegians. Bunch of fucking commies.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2025, 10:16:07 AM »
I read that the number of DHS employees was 480.
And be careful when you're out driving around. You just never know when a semi driver who can't read a lick of English may jackknife his/her rig in front of you.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2025, 10:25:39 AM »
Yes when something is undeniably a Democrat led dumpster fire, just shift the conversation to “don’t care, mosquitoes, 432hz” 😬

This is a fairly typical local level.scandal. The problem being a lack of oversight, it is a bipartisan issue.

Corrupt local Republican officials talk about law enforcement and family values. Corrupt local Democrats talk about healthcare and education.

Republicans currently control the small municipalities and rural areas, while Democrats hold sway big cities and urban counties.

I read that Minnesota law made local oversight difficult.

In the Federalist; Madison, Hamilton, And Jay talk about preventing tyranny by the central government via Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances. Note the Unitary executive concept threatens that, but is another issue.

The problem of local corruption is dealt with via Federalism itself, the shared power between the federal and state government. Basically, people are people. It's going to happen. Between the State and Feds, hopefully it gets exposed.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2025, 10:40:21 AM »
This is a fairly typical local level.scandal. The problem being a lack of oversight, it is a bipartisan issue.

Corrupt local Republican officials talk about law enforcement and family values. Corrupt local Democrats talk about healthcare and education.

Republicans currently control the small municipalities and rural areas, while Democrats hold sway big cities and urban counties.

I read that Minnesota law made local oversight difficult.

In the Federalist; Madison, Hamilton, And Jay talk about preventing tyranny by the central government via Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances. Note the Unitary executive concept threatens that, but is another issue.

The problem of local corruption is dealt with via Federalism itself, the shared power between the federal and state government. Basically, people are people. It's going to happen. Between the State and Feds, hopefully it gets exposed.

Raising the vibes helps
That's a nice yarn you spun there.

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2025, 10:51:23 AM »
That's a nice yarn you spun there.

"a long or rambling story, especially one that is implausible."

Nice half cocked attempt at an insult.

Have you ever read the Federalist Papers?

Do you consider them yarns?

 
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2025, 11:38:07 AM »
There’s an ongoing public debate about how much Tim Walz — governor of Minnesota — knew about alleged fraud by parts of the Somali community and broader welfare-/aid-program fraud, and what he did once he was aware. Here’s what is known, alleged, or disputed as of now.

✅ What we do know — there were widespread fraud allegations in Minnesota’s welfare/aid programs

Over the past few years, investigators say there have been major fraud schemes involving Medicaid, housing-stabilization services, child-nutrition programs, and bogus “autism centers.”

One of the most publicized schemes involved a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future, which allegedly submitted false claims for meals provided (or claimed to have provided) to children — leading to hundreds of millions of dollars in reimbursements based on bogus data.

As of 2025, dozens of individuals have been charged and many convicted in connection with these fraud cases.

So — there was real, verifiable misuse of aid programs and fraud affecting state and federal funds under programs administered in Minnesota.

👀 What we know Walz says about it (his public stance)

When pressed publicly (e.g., on “Meet the Press”), Walz said: “If you’re committing fraud, … no matter where you come from, what you look like, what you believe, you are going to go to jail.”

He also has argued that the fraud was not limited to any single community, noting Minnesota’s overall generosity and prosperity tends to “attract criminals.”

On record, Walz has resisted taking what critics call “ultimate responsibility” for the systemic failures — instead emphasizing that enforcement and prosecutions have been carried out by federal authorities.

⚠️ Allegations that Walz knew — and ignored or suppressed warnings

A group claiming to be more than 400 employees from the Minnesota Department of Human Services (DHS) says that they alerted Walz — and his administration — early on about suspected fraud, but that no meaningful action was taken. They also accuse the administration of retaliating against whistleblowers.

According to those staffers, the state “disempowered” oversight — specifically the Office of the Legislative Auditor — which allowed fraudulent activity to continue unchecked.

Some commentary and recent opinion pieces argue that the fraud happened “in plain sight.” The rapid increase in certain welfare-funded services (for example, the dramatic rise in “autism centers” and their funding) — which seems implausible if legitimate — are cited as evidence that red flags were obvious long before government acted.


🧾 What is still uncertain or disputed

It is not proven that Walz personally knew the full extent of the fraud — or exactly when he learned it. The claims largely come from whistleblowers who say they reported concerns, but the state agency involved has disputed that the group speaking out on X (formerly Twitter) represents official DHS staff.

The scale and mechanisms of the misconduct are under investigation, especially for allegations that some funds were sent overseas or linked to extremist organizations such as Al-Shabaab. Some law-enforcement sources allege such links, but it’s unclear what has been legally established.

Critics argue that even if Walz was not personally involved, as governor overseeing the state’s welfare systems — including appointing agency heads and shaping oversight policies — he bears political responsibility. Supporters say enforcement was handled by independent agencies and federal prosecutors, not by state leadership directly.

🧑‍💼 So — did Walz know about the fraud? The answer is: probably yes, at least to some extent — but it’s unclear how much he knew, how early, and whether he understood the full scope.

There are credible claims from DHS-associated whistleblowers that they alerted state leadership about fraud early, and a growing body of public reporting showing dramatic anomalies in welfare funding — money flows that look suspicious even on their face.

At the same time, there is no unambiguous public record confirming that Walz personally reviewed or acted on those warnings before federal prosecutions began.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2025, 11:43:15 AM »





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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2025, 03:29:43 PM »
There’s an ongoing public debate about how much Tim Walz — governor of Minnesota — knew about alleged fraud by parts of the Somali community and broader welfare-/aid-program fraud, and what he did once he was aware. Here’s what is known, alleged, or disputed as of now.

✅ What we do know — there were widespread fraud allegations in Minnesota’s welfare/aid programs

Over the past few years, investigators say there have been major fraud schemes involving Medicaid, housing-stabilization services, child-nutrition programs, and bogus “autism centers.”

One of the most publicized schemes involved a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future, which allegedly submitted false claims for meals provided (or claimed to have provided) to children — leading to hundreds of millions of dollars in reimbursements based on bogus data.

As of 2025, dozens of individuals have been charged and many convicted in connection with these fraud cases.

So — there was real, verifiable misuse of aid programs and fraud affecting state and federal funds under programs administered in Minnesota.

👀 What we know Walz says about it (his public stance)

When pressed publicly (e.g., on “Meet the Press”), Walz said: “If you’re committing fraud, … no matter where you come from, what you look like, what you believe, you are going to go to jail.”

He also has argued that the fraud was not limited to any single community, noting Minnesota’s overall generosity and prosperity tends to “attract criminals.”

On record, Walz has resisted taking what critics call “ultimate responsibility” for the systemic failures — instead emphasizing that enforcement and prosecutions have been carried out by federal authorities.

⚠️ Allegations that Walz knew — and ignored or suppressed warnings

A group claiming to be more than 400 employees from the Minnesota Department of Human Services (DHS) says that they alerted Walz — and his administration — early on about suspected fraud, but that no meaningful action was taken. They also accuse the administration of retaliating against whistleblowers.

According to those staffers, the state “disempowered” oversight — specifically the Office of the Legislative Auditor — which allowed fraudulent activity to continue unchecked.

Some commentary and recent opinion pieces argue that the fraud happened “in plain sight.” The rapid increase in certain welfare-funded services (for example, the dramatic rise in “autism centers” and their funding) — which seems implausible if legitimate — are cited as evidence that red flags were obvious long before government acted.


🧾 What is still uncertain or disputed

It is not proven that Walz personally knew the full extent of the fraud — or exactly when he learned it. The claims largely come from whistleblowers who say they reported concerns, but the state agency involved has disputed that the group speaking out on X (formerly Twitter) represents official DHS staff.

The scale and mechanisms of the misconduct are under investigation, especially for allegations that some funds were sent overseas or linked to extremist organizations such as Al-Shabaab. Some law-enforcement sources allege such links, but it’s unclear what has been legally established.

Critics argue that even if Walz was not personally involved, as governor overseeing the state’s welfare systems — including appointing agency heads and shaping oversight policies — he bears political responsibility. Supporters say enforcement was handled by independent agencies and federal prosecutors, not by state leadership directly.

🧑‍💼 So — did Walz know about the fraud? The answer is: probably yes, at least to some extent — but it’s unclear how much he knew, how early, and whether he understood the full scope.

There are credible claims from DHS-associated whistleblowers that they alerted state leadership about fraud early, and a growing body of public reporting showing dramatic anomalies in welfare funding — money flows that look suspicious even on their face.

At the same time, there is no unambiguous public record confirming that Walz personally reviewed or acted on those warnings before federal prosecutions began.

Good to see you Hal. Thanks for clearing the air about WTF is wrong with Minnesota!
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2025, 09:48:07 PM »
In Nov of 2020 Feeding Our Future sued the Mn Dept of Ed, who the Mn AG's office would represent, over their sites not being approved.
The suit was settled the following month and the money followed.

In March 2021 the Dept of Ed stopped payments due to "serious deficiencies".  Feeding Our Future sued. The suit was settled the following month and the money followed.

In Dec 2021 AG Ellison had a 54 minute meeting with a few people, including Feeding Our Future. He mentions the heat he is getting from agencies. Agencies that he represents.
His campaign allegedly received contributions from 4 individuals the following month.

In Jan 2022 the feds raided Feeding Our Future. Charges were filed for the first 47 in Sept 2022.


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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2025, 10:30:37 PM »
Gov Lindell is sure to fix this! 

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2025, 07:34:03 AM »
3 clips from the 54 minute audio.
The Twotter feed has links to the audio for the clips and a link to the full audio.

Jodi Harpstead was the DHS Commissioner. She resigned early this year. Prior to her 2019 appointment she had been CEO and President of Lutheran Social Services of Minnesota, not that there's anything wrong with Lutherans.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2025, 09:06:33 AM »
The usual suspects here, “just don’t care” or it “minor…”
Because FOX News told me so…

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2025, 10:22:12 AM »
So the Vikings, after watching Max Brosmer throw 4 picks and 0 touchdowns, had Desmond Ridder on their practice squad and cut him.

How bad must that mother fucker be, lol. I mean, I feel kinda bad for the Vikings. They are a masterclass in slamming windows shut lol
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