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WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2025, 11:38:10 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 04, 2025, 09:06:33 AM
The usual suspects here, “just don’t care” or it “minor…”

Relax, we’re not in George Ryan or even Otto Kerner territory yet.  I like Walz.  He seems like a decent guy, but the reported fraud occurred under his watch.  The buck stops with him. 

Announcing his re-election bid in September was not a good move for Walz.  His administration faces "Walz Fatigue," and third terms rarely succeed for governors.  He should have provided an opportunity for a new group of Democratic candidates to emerge.  Maybe even Amy Klobuchar would consider running. 

Now you would think Walz’s problems would be a great opportunity for Republicans.  The good news for Dems is that the RWNJs have taken over the state party political apparatus.  That means some crackpot like Scott Jensen would be nominated again.  He performed well in rural regions, but his results declined in the more densely populated suburban and urban locations.

Like Illinois, a Republican can win statewide in Minnesota, but they must be moderate, non-threatening and believe in effective government (at least on the face of it).  The last time a Republican won a statewide office in Minnesota was 2006, when Tim Pawlenty was re-elected governor.  He was often described as the “friendly suburban Republican.” 

With someone like Pawlenty leading, Republicans would have a shot at reclaiming the governor’s office.  But even he acknowledges he wouldn’t receive the party’s endorsement today. 
https://www.fox9.com/news/future-minnesota-republican-party-future-tim-pawlenty
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2025, 02:57:35 PM »
Should Mn from IlliniHQ2 move out of Minnesota?

That’s really a question only Mn can answer — but here are a few angles you can consider when talking about it on IlliniHQ2 or thinking it through yourself:

1. Why would Mn want to move?

Weather? Minnesota winters are no joke.

Job or lifestyle changes? Maybe there’s a pull toward Illinois or somewhere warmer.

Wanting to be closer to Illini country? Some Illini fans feel the gravitational pull of Champaign-Urbana eventually.

2. Why not move?

Cost of living in Minnesota can be better than in many other states.

Quality of life is high in a lot of Minnesota communities.

If he’s already established there — job, family, etc. — uprooting might not make sense.

3. The fun message-board answer

If he’s complaining nonstop about the cold, the Vikings, or being surrounded by Gophers fans… then yes, maybe it’s time for him to head south to Illini territory and live among civilized people.

Bottom line

Mn should move only if it improves his life — not just because the board wants to roast him about living in Minnesota.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2025, 03:33:28 PM »
Quote from: Hal9000 on December 04, 2025, 02:57:35 PM
Should Mn from IlliniHQ2 move out of Minnesota?

That’s really a question only Mn can answer — but here are a few angles you can consider when talking about it on IlliniHQ2 or thinking it through yourself:

1. Why would Mn want to move?

Weather? Minnesota winters are no joke.

Job or lifestyle changes? Maybe there’s a pull toward Illinois or somewhere warmer.

Wanting to be closer to Illini country? Some Illini fans feel the gravitational pull of Champaign-Urbana eventually.

2. Why not move?

Cost of living in Minnesota can be better than in many other states.

Quality of life is high in a lot of Minnesota communities.

If he’s already established there — job, family, etc. — uprooting might not make sense.

3. The fun message-board answer

If he’s complaining nonstop about the cold, the Vikings, or being surrounded by Gophers fans… then yes, maybe it’s time for him to head south to Illini territory and live among civilized people.

Bottom line

Mn should move only if it improves his life — not just because the board wants to roast him about living in Minnesota.
Thanks, Hal.
I left the civilized people years ago. And I ain't moving.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2025, 04:45:26 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 04, 2025, 11:38:10 AM
Relax, we’re not in George Ryan or even Otto Kerner territory yet.  I like Walz.  He seems like a decent guy, but the reported fraud occurred under his watch.  The buck stops with him. 

Trump seems like a decent guy, but the Chinese released COVID upon the world under his watch. The buck stops with him.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2025, 04:49:29 PM »
Quote from: Hal9000 on December 04, 2025, 02:57:35 PM
Should Mn from IlliniHQ2 move out of Minnesota?

Mn is straight MAGA. In MAGA - suffering is a feature, not a bug. People are born to suffer. Without suffering, how can we find eternal grace?

Nevermind that the entire arc of humanity has been about making life easier for humans, not harder. The mythology of suffering prevails.

So yes, he should stay in Minnesota, and suffer. It is the path to redemption. Let those pagan Californians hang out on the mosquito free beaches in the sunshine, never having to make "rain dates" for summer events, etc... They will rot in hell for their easy lifestyle.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2025, 06:21:18 AM »
Who had it on their Bingo card that Ilhan Omar would sponsor the legislation, that she now says didn't have the necessary guardrails, that would allow for the Feeding Our Future fraud ?

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2025, 09:57:48 AM »
Hey Hal9000, what can you tell us about the folks who looted Feeding Our Future?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2025, 10:12:29 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 06, 2025, 09:57:48 AM
Hey Hal9000, what can you tell us about the folks who looted Feeding Our Future?
I think you meant to ask about the Feeding Our Future folks who looted the taxpayers.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2025, 11:54:19 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 06, 2025, 10:12:29 AM
I think you meant to ask about the Feeding Our Future folks who looted the taxpayers.

Yeah, that
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2025, 12:57:03 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 06, 2025, 06:21:18 AM
Who had it on their Bingo card that Ilhan Omar would sponsor the legislation, that she now says didn't have the necessary guardrails, that would allow for the Feeding Our Future fraud ?



Necessary guardrails?  She was referring to the actions of the state education department, not the law itself.

The recent report from the MN Office of the Legislative Auditor found that the education department failed to act on warning signs of fraud at Feeding Our Future, failed to exercise its authority to hold the nonprofit accountable to program requirements and was ill-prepared to respond to the issues it encountered with Feeding Our Future.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2025, 04:38:00 PM »
Love how the white liberal Aimee lady played the race card and everyone got afraid to continue investigating. Who could have ever seen the whole “minorities can’t be held accountable for anything” culture backfiring?
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2025, 05:10:26 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 06, 2025, 12:57:03 PM
Necessary guardrails?  She was referring to the actions of the state education department, not the law itself.

The recent report from the MN Office of the Legislative Auditor found that the education department failed to act on warning signs of fraud at Feeding Our Future, failed to exercise its authority to hold the nonprofit accountable to program requirements and was ill-prepared to respond to the issues it encountered with Feeding Our Future.
Walz knew about the fraud. Guardrails weren't put up. The issue was suppressed.
And Omar knew about previous social services fraud from 2018.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2025, 05:59:55 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 06, 2025, 05:10:26 PM
Walz knew about the fraud. Guardrails weren't put up. The issue was suppressed.
And Omar knew about previous social services fraud from 2018.

Thank you for confirming the point I made.  The legislative auditor’s report clearly identifies where the guardrails were lacking.  Now it's time to act. 

Walz should take full responsibility and replace the education department director and meals program manager.  The legislature should appoint an independent expert or panel to investigate and make recommendations for improving program oversight and enforcement. 

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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2025, 06:15:14 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on December 06, 2025, 05:59:55 PM
Thank you for confirming the point I made.  The legislative auditor’s report clearly identifies where the guardrails were lacking.  Now it's time to act. 

Walz should take full responsibility and replace the education department director and meals program manager.  The legislature should appoint an independent expert or panel to investigate and make recommendations for improving program oversight and enforcement. 


Walz knew about it and suppressed it. Nobody is getting a refund.
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Re: WTF is wrong with Minnesota?
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2025, 06:31:40 PM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on December 06, 2025, 06:15:14 PM
Walz knew about it and suppressed it. Nobody is getting a refund.

Nobody is expecting a refund.

The decision about Walz's future rests with the voters, but the fraud claims have seriously damaged his reputation.  I think he should retire after his current term. 
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