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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2025, 04:04:33 PM »
I missed the part where investors around the globe were fleeing US markets. I would have thought it would have been publicized here and elsewhere at the time. Hmmm.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2025, 04:09:10 PM »
There’s no way a bunch of panicked rich nations could influence news to generate domestic public pressure on Trump to acquiesce, is there? Or can only Russia influence domestic US stuff?
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2025, 04:12:40 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 14, 2025, 04:09:10 PM
There’s no way a bunch of panicked rich nations could influence news to generate domestic public pressure on Trump to acquiesce, is there? Or can only Russia influence domestic US stuff?

they don't really seem panicked. The word is "calculating"
https://deanblundell.substack.com/p/carneys-checkmate-how-canadas-quiet?triedRedirect=true
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2025, 04:16:02 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 14, 2025, 04:09:10 PM
There’s no way a bunch of panicked rich nations could influence news to generate domestic public pressure on Trump to acquiesce, is there? Or can only Russia influence domestic US stuff?

and by "influence news" you mean "sell bonds and influence the price of bonds in a negative manner for the US"
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2025, 06:17:15 PM »
Think two people have now posted the blog of some Canadian guy claiming a W on Trump. Whose side are you guys even on? Wait, don’t tell us. We already know.
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2025, 06:22:08 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 14, 2025, 06:17:15 PM
Think two people have now posted the blog of some Canadian guy claiming a W on Trump. Whose side are you guys even on? Wait, don’t tell us. We already know.

I am on humanity's side. Earth first.
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2025, 06:28:52 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 14, 2025, 06:22:08 PM
I am on humanity's side. Earth first.

Why is it ok to have tariffs against us but when we implement them it’s isolationist drivel? Genuinely curious if you think it’s good we have a trillion dollar a year trade deficit while also accumulating unsustainable debt? I totally get that you don’t like the approach, not sure I do either, but am also willing to admit I don’t have access to all the info the people making the decisions do.
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2025, 06:42:13 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2025, 06:43:44 PM »
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2025, 07:18:29 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 14, 2025, 06:42:13 PM
The Commies don't appear to get the jokes either.

https://nypost.com/2025/04/14/world-news/china-suspends-rare-earth-exports-kneecapping-us-industry-reliant-on-beijings-monopoly/

Who would have thought making a large chunk of the world your enemy would have negative consequences like this.

Interestingly, Sleepy Joe recognized the need to bolster our rare earth element supply chain, but obviously this won't happen overnight.
https://me.smenet.org/biden-administration-announces-plans-to-secure-rare-earth-element-supply-chain/
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2025, 07:29:33 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 14, 2025, 06:28:52 PM
Why is it ok to have tariffs against us but when we implement them it’s isolationist drivel?

We have addressed this. It is not hard to use your favorite search engine. Other nations are not earning income from tariffs. They are used to prevent dumping.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2025, 07:31:57 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 14, 2025, 06:28:52 PM
Genuinely curious if you think it’s good we have a trillion dollar a year trade deficit while also accumulating unsustainable debt? I totally get that you don’t like the approach, not sure I do either, but am also willing to admit I don’t have access to all the info the people making the decisions do.

The approach used by the last President to balance the budget and create a surplus might be good idea.
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2025, 07:41:49 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on April 14, 2025, 07:31:57 PM
The approach used by the last President to balance the budget and create a surplus might be good idea.

Have a tech bubble fall into his lap?
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2025, 08:04:38 PM »
Quote from: Custard on April 14, 2025, 07:41:49 PM
Have a tech bubble fall into his lap?

Presumably since you are such a genius you are short the market. You're probably over there on Wall Street Bets high rollin with 200 dollars in put options!
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Re: USA vs Communist China
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2025, 09:17:44 PM »
Thanks for toeing the line Murph!

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Within the next four years, NVIDIA plans to produce up to half a trillion dollars of AI infrastructure in the United States through partnerships with TSMC, Foxconn, Wistron, Amkor and SPIL. These world-leading companies are deepening their partnership with NVIDIA, growing their businesses while expanding their global footprint and hardening supply chain resilience.

NVIDIA AI supercomputers are the engines of a new type of data center created for the sole purpose of processing artificial intelligence — AI factories that are the infrastructure powering a new AI industry. Tens of “gigawatt AI factories” are expected to be built in the coming years. Manufacturing NVIDIA AI chips and supercomputers for American AI factories is expected to create hundreds of thousands of jobs and drive trillions of dollars in economic security over the coming decades.

“The engines of the world’s AI infrastructure are being built in the United States for the first time,” said Jensen Huang, founder and CEO of NVIDIA. “Adding American manufacturing helps us better meet the incredible and growing demand for AI chips and supercomputers, strengthens our supply chain and boosts our resiliency.”

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