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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2025, 12:51:33 PM »
Brad was smart (but should haven’t taken a genius to figure out) to abandon his old systems.

I think he’s gotten better as a recruiter (but I think Antigua is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in this regard).

I think Brad is a mediocre at best Xs and Os coach. Teams often don’t play to their strengths. Can’t make adjustments even months on end.

He’s learned how to play the NIL game for the most part. He’ll have a decent team on the floor, but doesn’t seem to know how to make the pieces fit.

Hiring your son is a bullshit nepo move. At least call one of your buddies and make him coach at a lower level a couple years before you hire him as an assistant.

Bottom line. He’s ok. We could do better, but historically we’ve also done worse. Pushing him out comes with risk. I’d only be for change if I was highly confident the next guy was a step up.

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2025, 02:40:39 PM »
I get that maybe the optics aren’t great, but Tyler being on the staff is one of my least concerns. Supposedly he is an offensive guru and our two offenses since he was promoted have been really good despite a complete roster turnover. Seems like the Hamer guy that coaches the “defense” is the one that needs to go. I’d imagine Tyler will eventually get a look somewhere else.

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2025, 04:16:01 PM »
OER? that's a made up stat. Didn't win us enough games did it

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2025, 05:49:03 PM »
OER? that's a made up stat. Didn't win us enough games did it

Those analytics are favored by teams that want to distract from stats like "Wins" and "Losses" and losers who get shitcanned like Dan Bernstein!
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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2025, 08:43:29 PM »
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We really could score last year once we got Domask and TSJ both going in second half of year and Hawkins actually mysteriously could shoot for a stretch of games. We couldn't defend. 80th in country.

I don't think Mini Me Brad is any sort of guru. He is advertised as an analytic guy but if you are only shooting 31% from three all year and taking them at the extreme rate we were it actually really limits your EFG%. We were only 98th in country in EFG% and slightly above above the D1 average. We could have been much better with adjustments.
We really were not much better than we were in November in March. The buck stops with Brad.
I actually think this team underperformed considering the level of talent.

« Last Edit: March 24, 2025, 08:45:01 PM by Lkdog »

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2025, 10:29:40 PM »
I think they have to shoot open threes to make the offense work. It only takes 3-4 possessions of guys passing on open looks for defenses to adjust to clog the lanes. It’s part of why TSJ was much less effective when Dainja was in games last year. The Underwoods talk a lot about wanting to shoot 40 or so percent of shots from 3 and clean up the offensive glass and play high possession games. When you get a lot of offensive rebounds being the 300th and whatever percentage 3 point shooting team isn’t as big a deal. Yeah we bricked some of the rebounds too, but we also got a lot of putbacks and dunks and second chance threes throughout the season.

Fact is they brought in guys to play this way and they didn’t shoot as well as expected as a unit. We seemed to get everyone on fire at once or no one. That’s why we either won by double digits or lost by double digits in so many games. Tomi is pretty ineffective posting up and leaves most shots short then gets whistled for being over the back on the boards. Morez can’t shoot outside of 8’ and Ben was…well, Ben. I’m not really sure what adjustments could have been made down the stretch with this roster and the injury and sickness issues we had. When were we going to implement the wholesale changes? Sucks the guys that came in that shot better elsewhere didn’t shoot as well here, but a lot of this massive turnover era is a crapshoot for all schools involved. For every guy you get like Domask you probably get 3-4 like Ben and Booth.

 The idea of building a team around an 18 year old precocious Euro PG and a 7’1” finesse big man that allows the 5 out style seemed pretty good when you looked at the other pieces, and for many games it did. Unfortunately there were a lot of games it didn’t, and where do you pivot from there? Outside of Boswell who could really get to the rim at will later in this season? Different players had games they could, but not with any consistentcy. They weren’t built for that. They did that wrinkle though off the PnR with bit of a high-low set and more cutters to the basket down the lane, but we threw it away almost as much as we threaded the needle for a layup or dunk. Which is on inexperience and lack of chemistry due to being a whole new team and all the aforementioned issues.

A huge miss on this roster was not having another serviceable but that had a little inside scoring game and some rim protection. Having Morez out for 5 weeks really hurt. If Murph would quit buying overpriced homes and donate to ICON we could have had Brea and got Hawkins back.
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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2025, 07:24:47 AM »
We get the same bill of sale every year. Our shooters are elite.
In past years we tried going with the "every day guys mantra" but that wasn't brought up this year. I'm not sure if we were incapable of that,  just focused on offense or probably a combination. We may be big but we didn't seem to match up well in a lot of games with strength and athleticism.

Boswell finished the season well. Good for the local guy.
And Brad's not going anywhere as long as there's no trouble, the donors support him and attendance stays good.

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2025, 02:54:03 PM »
I didn’t know that. Thanks!

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2025, 04:32:44 PM »
Good for both coaches.
And hopefully a great football season coming up with an experienced squad returning.

Underwood could get an A+ and COY mention if he, or Lil Underwood, spent any time here.  :D
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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2025, 09:46:07 PM »
It is great what historic 30-0 runs in TOTTM and lambasted by Duke will get you.
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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2025, 10:49:28 PM »
Grade for Underwood last year just now on ESPN…

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/45129529/big-ten-report-cards-grades-2024-2025



That is for BT teams only.
So he gets an "A" for a team that finished 7th in BT and was easily ousted in second round of NCAA's?

The only one I would give an A to is Izzo.
Underwood gets a B/B-.

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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2025, 10:51:33 PM »
So he gets an "A" for a team that finished 7th in BT and was easily ousted in second round of NCAA's?

Gen Z grading on a curve. You show up you get an A.
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Re: time for brad to go
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2025, 10:52:43 PM »
Gen Z grading on a curve. You show up you get an A.

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