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Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST

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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2025, 09:34:00 AM »
Quote from: ILLINICHIEF on February 23, 2025, 07:36:26 AM
Ayo and Kofi, yes. I think Ayo was coming all along, but credit due...Kofi was indeed a Antigua guy and NY guy which is to my point. Had this happened when we were recruiting him, not sure we would have had him.

KJ I had heard of along with Demin and a few other Euro's, there actually are sites to track the best Euro's. Ivisic, no and Riley yes as well.
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That won't happen again with BU has our coach I would bet on it. again the next 4-8 weeks are going to be telling.


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When Kofi Cockburn made his official visit to Champaign as a high school senior, he watched the Illini lose to Florida Atlantic. A week later, on the day he committed, Illinois blew a second half lead to Northwestern and fell to 4-11 on the season. Brad Underwood was 18-29 at Illinois, and the future of the program looked bleak.

Illinois Basketball hadn’t given him much to believe in, but Kofi Cockburn believed anyway.

Fast-forward a year and a half, and Brad Underwood has turned the program around. The Illini are ranked 8th in the country after a resurgent season. And Kofi Cockburn earned himself the title of Big Ten Freshman of the Year after averaging 13.3 points, 8.8 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks per game. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.


https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2020/11/22/21572894/illinois-basketball-player-preview-kofi-cockburn-brad-underwood-fighting-illini-big-ten
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2025, 10:13:02 AM »
Not sure last night or one game means anything for recruiting either way.
With the transfer portal and money and rosters turning over each year it's a new world.

That said, even with the success that is indisputable to certain level, I am also not convinced that Underwood is ever going to be able to get the program beyond this second tier good we are at.

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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2025, 10:24:08 AM »
Duke is also really really good, according to kenpom 2nd highest ever rating at the moment only below 1999 duke, which is pretty nuts when you think about all the great teams since then
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2025, 11:15:10 AM »
They definitely are impressive and well coached.
Not sure who on our team would be in heavy rotation besides KJ or Ivisic.
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #94 on: February 23, 2025, 12:08:50 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on February 23, 2025, 10:24:08 AM
Duke is also really really good, according to kenpom 2nd highest ever rating at the moment only below 1999 duke, which is pretty nuts when you think about all the great teams since then

Winning by 43 over an alleged Kenpom top 25 doesn't hurt....
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2025, 12:39:39 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on February 23, 2025, 10:13:02 AM
Not sure last night or one game means anything for recruiting either way.
With the transfer portal and money and rosters turning over each year it's a new world.

That said, even with the success that is indisputable to certain level, I am also not convinced that Underwood is ever going to be able to get the program beyond this second tier good we are at.



Agree on Underwood, recruiting was meant towards HS mostly. That said the NIL always has the capability to even things as well.
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2025, 12:49:54 PM »
I watched it so you don't have to.

Guys, we shoot it really well in practice. I am the most pro-3 point shot guy. I thought we would shoot in the upper 30's. We made 15 a game several times.
Vs EIU, SIUE, Arkansas, Chicago St, and Oregon.
Oregon was over a month and a half ago. Arkansas was 3 months ago.

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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2025, 04:15:59 PM »
So we lit it up against three shitty low major teams and a couple of very mediocre P6 teams.
Got it.

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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #98 on: February 23, 2025, 09:00:13 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on February 23, 2025, 04:15:59 PM
So we lit it up against three shitty low major teams and a couple of very mediocre P6 teams.
Got it.


Exactly. And it's been a while since we've done it.
He also talked about Duke's excellent 2 point defense. So we put up 16 from 3 in the 1st half while going 15-18 from 2.
Duke makes halftime adjustments to stop the 2 and we decide to go 8-27 from 2 in the 2nd half but reduce our 3 point attempts to 10 and go 2-10. 🤷
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2025, 09:19:42 PM »
Per ESPN we are 340th out of 350 D1 teams in 3 pt shooting. We are the 5th worst high-major behind Wake, TCU, MSU, and St. Johns. They all shoot between 19-21/game. We shoot 30. It's an inexplicable strategy for a team that looks and shoots like ours.

Mathematically, 55% x 2 > 30% x 3.
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2025, 10:59:52 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on February 23, 2025, 09:19:42 PM
Per ESPN we are 340th out of 350 D1 teams in 3 pt shooting. We are the 5th worst high-major behind Wake, TCU, MSU, and St. Johns. They all shoot between 19-21/game. We shoot 30. It's an inexplicable strategy for a team that looks and shoots like ours.

Mathematically, 55% x 2 > 30% x 3.
But we rebound the missed 3's well and get the opportunity to miss another.
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2025, 12:56:23 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 23, 2025, 10:59:52 PM
But we rebound the missed 3's well and get the opportunity to miss another.

our best offensive rebounder has a broken wrist and isn't playing anymore
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2025, 01:21:54 PM »
Our offensive rebound percentage is fantastic at like 35%, giving us a solid egde to get another -.2 expected points launching another 3 instead of doing anything else short of a turnover.
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2025, 02:45:58 PM »
I don’t think offensive rebounding is what’s killing this team.
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Re: Try not to Puke @ MSG today @ 7pm CST
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2025, 03:03:25 PM »
Quote from: Billy Jack on February 24, 2025, 02:45:58 PM
I don’t think offensive rebounding is what’s killing this team.

I will give you 3 guesses what is actually, can you get maybe 7.7% of the answers right at least?
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