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Illini @ Nutgers today

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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2025, 06:45:21 AM »
Bruce>Underwood?
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2025, 07:07:13 AM »
KJ is playing like he hit the wall and he wouldn't be the 1st freshman to do it. Meanwhile the 2 Rutgers freshmen be like, what wall ?

Rutgers looked to me to be a little like Maryland. Tall, athletic and quick but not as physical. tOSU is favored tonight, we'll see.
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2025, 07:52:42 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 06, 2025, 07:07:13 AM
KJ is playing like he hit the wall and he wouldn't be the 1st freshman to do it. Meanwhile the 2 Rutgers freshmen be like, what wall ?

Rutgers looked to me to be a little like Maryland. Tall, athletic and quick but not as physical. tOSU is favored tonight, we'll see.

KJ has essentially been playing pro basketball since 2021. Why is the hit the wall excuse gaining any traction?
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2025, 07:53:26 AM »
Quote from: bringbackself on February 06, 2025, 06:45:21 AM
Bruce>Underwood?

Bruce only has this poor of a conference record 2x, I read somewhere
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2025, 08:15:44 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 06, 2025, 07:52:42 AM
KJ has essentially been playing pro basketball since 2021. Why is the hit the wall excuse gaining any traction?
His last 4 games he is averaging 11 points a game and 4 for 22 from 3. He's 0 for 7 his last 2 games.
Maybe he's not healthy, I don't know, but he had 1 bucket in the 2nd half and no free shot attempts.
He had 2 points in the 2nd half vs tOSU. On free shots.
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2025, 08:47:26 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 06, 2025, 08:15:44 AM
His last 4 games he is averaging 11 points a game and 4 for 22 from 3. He's 0 for 7 his last 2 games.
Maybe he's not healthy, I don't know, but he had 1 bucket in the 2nd half and no free shot attempts.
He had 2 points in the 2nd half vs tOSU. On free shots.

He left a couple of free shots short on the front rim I thought. Maybe the arm is bothering him.
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2025, 08:52:44 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 06, 2025, 08:47:26 AM
Maybe the arm is bothering him.
If so, that would fall under not being healthy. Maybe Sparty broke him
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2025, 09:07:14 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 06, 2025, 07:07:13 AM
KJ is playing like he hit the wall and he wouldn't be the 1st freshman to do it. Meanwhile the 2 Rutgers freshmen be like, what wall ?

Rutgers looked to me to be a little like Maryland. Tall, athletic and quick but not as physical. tOSU is favored tonight, we'll see.

To be fair Harper just missed an entire month of games and probably most practices with a bum ankle and flu I believe. That said KJ should not be hitting the wall so to speak with his level/length of play already against grown men in an international environment.

We will see how this plays out, I think KJ is just a super talented kid who "feeds" off and gets better when he is uber confident, which I don't think he is right now.
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2025, 09:07:56 AM »
Analytic Basketball  GET YOU SOME
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2025, 10:16:09 AM »
Quote from: bringbackself on February 06, 2025, 09:07:56 AM
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Can't wait to see who stupidly goes for 2 this Sunday because of Analytics!!
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2025, 10:17:20 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on February 06, 2025, 08:52:44 AM
If so, that would fall under not being healthy. Maybe Sparty broke him

I remember when Illinois was not an excuse organization and a Final Four team.
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2025, 11:52:46 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 06, 2025, 07:52:42 AM
KJ has essentially been playing pro basketball since 2021. Why is the hit the wall excuse gaining any traction?

He hasn't been the same since his injury to his arm, so that might have something to do with it
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2025, 01:49:18 PM »
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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2025, 02:52:27 PM »
Nothing wrong with using analytics.
You have to have the personnel to make it work.
We don't have enough good three point shooters or guys that get to the rim consistently for close twos.
It's based on threes and layups and making enough of them.
We clearly do better when we dial back the threes lately.
This team can't shoot the longball well enough to warrant the number of threes they take.

Rebounding is impressive but you have to make shots and take more shots that you can make.

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Re: Illini @ Nutgers today
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2025, 03:04:46 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on February 06, 2025, 02:52:27 PM
Nothing wrong with using analytics.
You have to have the personnel to make it work.
We don't have enough good three point shooters or guys that get to the rim consistently for close twos.
It's based on threes and layups and making enough of them.
We clearly do better when we dial back the threes lately.
This team can't shoot the longball well enough to warrant the number of threes they take.

Rebounding is impressive but you have to make shots and take more shots that you can make.

analytics doesnt show grit, strength, heart determination.

It doesn't show Lucas Johnson getting in other team's heads

It doesn't show John Paxson looking at M.J. saying "I'll be open"

Analytics doesn't show New England coming back from a 28-3 score

Analytics is analytics

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