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The most important election of our lives

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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #315 on: November 08, 2024, 02:19:01 PM »
Clinton and especially Obama did not run as Centrists. They tacked that way. Clinton literally gave his all to enact Universal healthcare and enacted “don’t ask don’t tell” which was controversial at the time. I know because I stood among military people as it was discussed and ridiculed. It was the penis is sports issue of its time.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #316 on: November 08, 2024, 02:19:40 PM »
Obama literally ran as a change agent from Chicago. Something you mock on a daily basis.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #317 on: November 08, 2024, 02:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:19:40 PM
Obama literally ran as a change agent from Chicago. Something you mock on a daily basis.

And anti-war one at that.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #318 on: November 08, 2024, 02:24:31 PM »
The Clintons literally inspired the modern day mantra of “Commie Dems.” The election of Clinton birthed New Gingrich and the modern ultra-right.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #319 on: November 08, 2024, 02:26:13 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:19:01 PM
Clinton and especially Obama did not run as Centrists. They tacked that way. Clinton literally gave his all to enact Universal healthcare and enacted “don’t ask don’t tell” which was controversial at the time. I know because I stood among military people as it was discussed and ridiculed. It was the penis is sports issue of its time.

LOL. The progressives just loved Mr. Triangulation Bill Clinton when he sold welfare reform.

They loved Obama because he was a Black guy and thought he was something he wasn't. He was a guy who voted present on abortion rights as a State Senator to appease his preacher supporters.  Real progressive of him.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #320 on: November 08, 2024, 02:26:45 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:19:40 PM
Obama literally ran as a change agent from Chicago. Something you mock on a daily basis.

Hope and Change! Gave us Trump too.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #321 on: November 08, 2024, 02:27:39 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:24:31 PM
The Clintons literally inspired the modern day mantra of “Commie Dems.” The election of Clinton birthed New Gingrich and the modern ultra-right.

And Obama literally gave us Trump when he insulted him at the correspondents' dinner. Thanks Obama!
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #322 on: November 08, 2024, 02:30:45 PM »
Clinton and Obama did not originally run as Centrists. They tacked that way because like me (who somewhat grudgingly votes Dem across the board), they decided that getting some of what they want was better than getting none of what they want.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #323 on: November 08, 2024, 02:31:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 02:27:39 PM
And Obama literally gave us Trump when he insulted him at the correspondents' dinner. Thanks Obama!

Obama burned him badly that day. Unfortunately the electorate is more unbalanced than we ever imagined.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #324 on: November 08, 2024, 02:32:23 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 02:26:45 PM
Hope and Change! Gave us Trump too.

So you voted Clinton and Obama but hated them, too. That checks out.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #325 on: November 08, 2024, 02:34:29 PM »
But you also liked them because “Centrist.” That explains your Bears suck, but will still make the Super Bowl takes.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #326 on: November 08, 2024, 02:37:42 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:30:45 PM
Clinton and Obama did not originally run as Centrists. They tacked that way because like me (who somewhat grudgingly votes Dem across the board), they decided that getting some of what they want was better than getting none of what they want.

Are we talking primaries or general election?
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #327 on: November 08, 2024, 02:38:53 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:32:23 PM
So you voted Clinton and Obama but hated them, too. That checks out.

I did not hate them. They were centrists. Like Biden. Unfortunately, Biden let things run amuck trying to appease his left flank.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #328 on: November 08, 2024, 02:39:39 PM »
Quote from: Luke Getsy on November 08, 2024, 02:34:29 PM
But you also liked them because “Centrist.” That explains your Bears suck, but will still make the Super Bowl takes.

They should be far better but for Your Guys Eberlose and Poles.
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Re: The most important election of our lives
« Reply #329 on: November 08, 2024, 02:52:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 08, 2024, 01:01:56 PM
Yep. But I'm a centrist trying to find places where we can agree as opposed to being a Progressive who just likes losing elections and calls everyone else a DINO

Centrist is just another word for pussy
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