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Re: Da Vaccine
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2020, 04:19:24 PM »
Personally, I'll say that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm adamantly anti lockdown and "New Normal" and care about society and the world around me.  What I see is COVID doomerism and government restrictions destroying society, and millions of unintended lives.  And the more authoritarian you get the worse it is.  So many people are moving out of NYC right now that people have to book moving trucks months in advance. That can't be explained by fear of the virus itself, as it's been many months since NYC was a big hot spot, it's clearly about the lock downs.  I've seen videos of 5th avenue completely boarded up for blocks on end, I'm sure thats great for retail.  I've heard similar stories from many other cities like San Francisco that have taken the same path.

Does anyone really think society is better off in California or Victoria, Australia right now than it is in Sweden or South Dakota? The lockdowns are destroying both individual rights and the greater good of society by making people mentally ill and unstable.  I consider both of these important, and they aren't opposing ideals.  A society with a healthy amount of individual rights is more resilient than a more centralized, controlled society.  An authoritarian society has all its eggs in one basket, so to speak, the consequences of a failed decision can be more ruinous than a society in which individuals and groups of people can pursue different options and come to find what works best in a more organic way.

Really, I think most of you COVID doomers are either scared or just engaging in tribal behavior, and convincing yourself its for the greater good. The level of fear in our society has been getting more extreme for many years.  Social and mainstream media companies now have the ability to blast you in the face during your every waking moment with fear.  I think I just see it differently in part because I'm just not that scared of death or this virus, its not a major concern that I even think about.  Just like who is president of the US, honestly I could care less, it doesn't effect my daily routine at all really.  Anyway, hopefully I have a number of decades of healthy life still ahead of me, being in my 40s, but I know if I manage to live to be old I'll eventually get to a more vulnerable state, but frankly, the thought of dying of COVID or something similar one day is less scary to me than the thought of living in a society that's ever more fearful, authoritarian, polarized and just flat out bat shit crazy.  I hope by the time I get old that society has abandoned the idea that the old have to be protected "for their own good" and used as cash cows for the medical industry and instead accepted that death is a natural conclusion to life.  I guess thats selfish though...
It is for the greater good, and it’s TEMPORARY. Jobs are temporary, you can find a new one. Businesses are temporary, they will come back. Death is not temporary.

Death may be a natural conclusion to life, but I’d bet you wouldn’t be happy gasping for breath in a hospital bed, with no way to say goodbye to your family, then to have a tube jammed down your throat to breathe for you until you finally pass from a disease that you maybe wouldn’t have even gotten if some selfish assholes would have accepted a few inconveniences in their lives foe the sake of other people, tough guy.

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Re: Da Vaccine
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2020, 10:02:51 AM »
Smites for all well reasoned responses
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Re: Da Vaccine
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2020, 12:25:22 PM »
I consider myself smote.

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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2020, 12:39:30 PM »
Smitten.

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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2020, 02:21:47 PM »
I suspect the best way to understand someone is to observe what they say about others. That can be a good tool for self reflection. A wise old Japanese lady once told me, "If you see somebody else look foolish; that is you. You mirror."
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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2020, 12:09:37 AM »
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2020, 01:25:26 AM »
I'd vote for Dave Chappelle.

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Re: Da Vaccine
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2020, 09:45:37 AM »
I want to make sure it’s safe first, we don’t need another Tuskegee Experiment on our hands
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« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2020, 11:22:09 AM »
I want to make sure it’s safe first, we don’t need another Tuskegee Experiment on our hands

Apples and oranges. 

https://www.history.com/news/the-infamous-40-year-tuskegee-study


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« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2020, 11:22:41 AM »
Surprised there hasn’t been much discussion on this.

Some things on my mind:

—Who should get the vaccine?

—How long will protection last? We already know reinfections are possible which correlates with coronaviruses we’ve studied for decades.

—It was rushed into production and uses a new mode of action. Is it a good idea to inject a large percentage of our population with a rushed vaccine when the overwhelming majority of people who contract the virus will have minimal issues?

—Isn’t it more than a little frightening to think our entire health care industry will all get the rushed vaccine first? The FDA doesn’t exactly have a sparkling record on the long term safety of the drugs they actually put through a full evaluation, so what could possibly go wrong in pumping a rushed vaccination into the bloodstreams of our most critical workers?

—We don’t even know whether or not those that have had Covid or have been vaccinated for it can contract and harbor enough virus to still be transmissible.

—Just seems unprecedented and potentially reckless if administered wide scale. Seems like it should go to those most at risk right away and then scale into health care and other essential workers and continue monitoring responses.

From everything I’ve been reading for months, as long as we protect Grandma we’re good to go right? That’s been the primary shaming mechanism for anyone upset at young minimal risk people attempting to be human beings.

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Re: Da Vaccine
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2020, 01:50:02 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2020, 01:50:30 PM »
SMH

Other than my troll comment at the bottom which part do you have trouble with?
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