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Re: Stonks
« Reply #225 on: May 13, 2025, 08:20:25 AM »
The point is that we have a framework for a trade deal that makes sense. More deals are coming. Markets have rallied close to April 2 levels. So now the only thing left for people to complain about is how we got here.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #226 on: May 13, 2025, 09:59:54 AM »
I'm sure that's what it was.
Ben Shapiro ?
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #227 on: May 13, 2025, 10:05:31 AM »
What was the point of open borders ?
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« Reply #228 on: May 13, 2025, 10:08:45 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 13, 2025, 08:20:25 AM
The point is that we have a framework for a trade deal that makes sense. More deals are coming. Markets have rallied close to April 2 levels. So now the only thing left for people to complain about is how we got here.

Concepts of a plan.

The trade deal that made sense? Pretty much exactly what was going on Jan 19. The Chinese aren't ripping us off. They are District 12. We are the Capitol. Did the Capitol think District 12 was ripping them off? Maybe they did - but all they did by going stupid and starting the hunger games was fuck up their own shit.

Even dumb ass shit like "they pirated the DVDs of some Disney movie!" just ends up making Disney more money by reiterating their branding so they can sell more tickets to theme parks and cruises to rich Chinese tourists.

But now a lot of small businesses in the US who operate on a razors edge got fucked up permanently for what? Trump's insider trading game.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #229 on: May 13, 2025, 10:10:27 AM »
Quote from: No one in Mn on May 13, 2025, 10:05:31 AM
What was the point of open borders ?

Do you even know what "open borders" means? You're like a broken fortune teller machine, repeatedly printing out slips with the various buzzwords from OAN and Newsmax, your heroes that are stealing you blind.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #230 on: May 13, 2025, 10:12:26 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on May 13, 2025, 07:29:37 AM
It appears it was all for The Trump Crime Family to game the market. As Ben Shapiro said yesterday,  you can now just swap out "Hunter Biden" for "Don, Jr." in stories.  Shows some people are finally catching on.

That guy is a human version of a weasel and his voice makes me cringe but I think I need to ask for a link to that because I'm sure I'd find it amusing.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #231 on: May 13, 2025, 10:14:08 AM »
I am very pleased to be back in the 3T club though. Hopefully Q97 was able to bail out of his short positions.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #232 on: May 13, 2025, 10:28:30 AM »
Quote from: Custard on May 13, 2025, 08:20:25 AM
The point is that we have a framework for a trade deal that makes sense. More deals are coming. Markets have rallied close to April 2 levels. So now the only thing left for people to complain about is how we got here.

One month from “Liberation Day” (“90 Trade Deals in 90 Days”).  Still no “full and comprehensive” deals.  Just two frameworks to keep talking.  Plus, a series of flip-flops. 

A low bar indeed.  This is Trump’s version of kicking the can down the road. 
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« Reply #233 on: May 13, 2025, 10:32:59 AM »
Quote from: alum74 on May 13, 2025, 10:28:30 AM
One month from “Liberation Day” (“90 Trade Deals in 90 Days”).  Still no “full and comprehensive” deals.  Just two frameworks to keep talking.  Plus, a series of flip-flops. 

A low bar indeed.  This is Trump’s version of kicking the can down the road.

there never was a can. just market manipulation for profit. Now they just need to keep the lid on so the Mn's of the world have just enough Campbell's soup that they don't revolt. Can't spend money from the guillotine.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #234 on: May 13, 2025, 02:44:28 PM »
It's not just good,  it's mmm mmm good!
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #235 on: May 13, 2025, 02:55:23 PM »
Quote from: alum74 on May 13, 2025, 10:28:30 AM
One month from “Liberation Day” (“90 Trade Deals in 90 Days”).  Still no “full and comprehensive” deals.  Just two frameworks to keep talking.  Plus, a series of flip-flops. 

A low bar indeed.  This is Trump’s version of kicking the can down the road.

But you told us it takes years to iron out trade deals. Pick a lane!
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #236 on: May 13, 2025, 02:58:28 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 13, 2025, 10:10:27 AM
Do you even know what "open borders" means? You're like a broken fortune teller machine, repeatedly printing out slips with the various buzzwords from OAN and Newsmax, your heroes that are stealing you blind.

Millions of people—no one knows the actual number—poured in the last several years with minimal vetting. Many were supported in doing so by US taxpayer money. You just want to argue the semantics of “open border” because it’s literally the only argument you have. Now you’re pining to keep these people here at all costs because you’ve been duped into supporting deeply unpopular policy, which is why the Democrat approval rating is historically terrible.
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« Reply #237 on: May 13, 2025, 03:00:51 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on May 13, 2025, 10:08:45 AM
Concepts of a plan.

The trade deal that made sense? Pretty much exactly what was going on Jan 19. The Chinese aren't ripping us off. They are District 12. We are the Capitol. Did the Capitol think District 12 was ripping them off? Maybe they did - but all they did by going stupid and starting the hunger games was fuck up their own shit.

Even dumb ass shit like "they pirated the DVDs of some Disney movie!" just ends up making Disney more money by reiterating their branding so they can sell more tickets to theme parks and cruises to rich Chinese tourists.

But now a lot of small businesses in the US who operate on a razors edge got fucked up permanently for what? Trump's insider trading game.

There is basically no IP that China hasn’t stolen or attempted to steal from us, right down to the bulk of their military technology.

Not buying the alarmist rhetoric that cheap Chinese garbage sitting at the ports for a few weeks somehow permanently crippled a bunch of US businesses. Deflect deflect deflect
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« Reply #238 on: May 13, 2025, 03:03:23 PM »
Quote from: Custard on May 13, 2025, 02:55:23 PM
But you told us it takes years to iron out trade deals. Pick a lane!

????  I said several months to 2-3 years. 
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« Reply #239 on: May 13, 2025, 03:34:10 PM »
When you’ve lost Rupert Murdoch's WSJ editorial board…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wall-street-journal-hits-donald-100409654.html

“Rarely has an economic policy been repudiated as soundly, and as quickly, as President Trump’s Liberation Day tariffs—and by Mr. Trump’s own hand.  Witness the agreement Monday morning to scale back his punitive tariffs on China—his second major retreat in less than a week. This is a win for economic reality, and for American prosperity.”
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“As with last week’s modest British agreement, the China deal is more surrender than Trump victory.”

“One tragedy of Mr. Trump’s shoot-America-in-the-foot-first approach is that he’s hurt his chances of rallying a united front of countries against Beijing’s mercantilism. By targeting allies with tariffs, Mr. Trump has eroded trust in America’s economic and political reliability.”
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“If there’s a silver lining to this turmoil, it is that markets have forced Mr. Trump to back down from his fever dream that high tariff walls will usher in a new “golden age.”  The age didn’t last two months, and it was more leaden than golden.  White House aide Peter Navarro, the main architect with Mr. Trump of the Liberation Day fiasco, has been repudiated.”

“Mr. Trump will not want to admit it, but he started a trade war with Adam Smith and lost. He’s not the first President to learn that lesson.”
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