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Re: Stonks
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2025, 04:15:42 PM »
yields are going up meaning bond prices are going down.

Which should be the opposite of what you see when people are selling stocks. Money is fleeing the stock market and who knows where it's landing.

They are moving from long duration to short duration due to stagflation fears
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« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2025, 04:16:54 PM »
They are moving from long duration to short duration due to stagflation fears

Yields are up on every duration, from the 1 month to the 30 year

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Re: Stonks
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2025, 04:42:07 PM »
Money is fleeing the stock market and who knows where it's landing.

Apparently nowhere.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/americans-are-sitting-on-a-cash-pile-as-stocks-reel-4b782b92

Of course Warren Buffet foresaw what was going to happen and started selling off right after the election.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2025, 08:43:05 PM »
the serious systemic issues that impact the financial future of the entire country.
Oh, are we ramping up antitrust enforcement and adopting Scandanavian tax rates?

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Re: Stonks
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2025, 11:31:33 PM »
Oh, are we ramping up antitrust enforcement and adopting Scandanavian tax rates?

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Re: Stonks
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2025, 11:41:43 PM »
Tariffs were announced Wednesday, starting a decline on Thursday.
The S&P 500 closed at 5782 on Nov 5, before the election
The S&P 500 closed at 5690 on April 2, before the tariffs were announced.

I know you flunked alegbra but even in basic math you'd learn that 5690 is below 5782

For a "deal" to be "re-worked" there has to be a "deal" to start with. Trump just slapped dumb ass tariffs in place.

He's a fucking moron, you shitposting troll.

Gosh, Murph, why’d you pick the S&P? DJI didn’t fit the narrative? I mean it hasn’t been this damn low since August!

Best part is you just proved my point—It’s basically the same as it was on Election Day.

But it gets better:

What happened to it after Election Day?

It went up almost 6%, almost exactly what it’s down now. The money we just “lost” was what we made since he was elected.

Guess you also missed Netanyahu falling all over himself to balance the trade deficit with the US today. See how that works when you have all the leverage? Tempo must be appalled.
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« Reply #81 on: April 08, 2025, 12:14:27 AM »
Apparently nowhere.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/americans-are-sitting-on-a-cash-pile-as-stocks-reel-4b782b92

Of course Warren Buffet foresaw what was going to happen and started selling off right after the election.

Dude campaigns on massive tariffs, gets elected, institutes massive tariffs, and people are surprised there are disruptions to the markets when the tariffs hit? This is elementary school level shit here.

When the election swung this way, I bought a couple more guns, ammo, made sure I had 6 months of nonperishable food, lanterns, backup generator, fuel, etc. Doomsday prepping? Perhaps, just had a feeling that once Trump started implementing his agenda the left would do whatever it took to derail it. 

When tariff/border talk heated up, I shorted my positions in Tesla, Nvidia and fentanyl, went long on DeepSeek and precious metals (thanks infomercial guy!) and reinvested the gains into being a Bears fan again. For a while.
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #82 on: April 08, 2025, 07:26:08 AM »
No wonder you won The Only Bracket Tournament That Matters!
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« Reply #83 on: April 08, 2025, 09:17:34 AM »
No wonder you won The Only Bracket Tournament That Matters!

This level of prescience is a blessing and a curse!
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Re: Stonks
« Reply #84 on: April 08, 2025, 09:30:53 AM »
Business Insider headline.

"Why stocks are jumping after 3 days of brutal losses"

Yesterday was not brutal.

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« Reply #85 on: April 08, 2025, 10:57:48 AM »
Business Insider headline.

"Why stocks are jumping after 3 days of brutal losses"

Yesterday was not brutal.

The 3 day loss was brutal, and a big chunk of it was yesterday, and the close was not nearly as bad as the low. This was a sequence as bad as 1987

It starts to smell more and more like performance art.
Peter Navarro is the tariff architect.
Elon Musk is the golden boy of DOGE

Today Musk calls Navarro dumber than a sack of bricks? How's that gonna dovetail in the Trump orbit? His two front and center guys slinging mud at each other? I didn't sell jack shit because I figure the US Economy is too big a ship for even these dumbshits to sink, and that there was a fairly high percentage chance this was just a show in order to grift off front running the market with chaos.

If that's true, Musk is the dumbest patsy in the world. If they "come up with a deal!" on tariffs which basically results in not much actually changing, we'll all sail along except that Musk has done permanent damage to his brand, which will be hundreds of billions of real dollars in market cap for Tesla. Shit, now he's even done more damage by ripping on Trump's key appointee - now everyone will hate him!

Thing is - there is video of Trump in the 80's talking about how great tariffs are. So it's not like he never believed this shit and just decided to fuck up the market for a few days so his cronies can exploit it. Is someone pulling his strings, levering off his stupidity to front run a market crash, then organize what's effectively a fake deal that Trump will think is a huge win?

A lot of real people are collateral damage in all this. A lot of suppliers did in fact raise prices on goods based on presumed tariffs, and a lot of small businesses got fucked in the process, even if they do a "nevermind"

We live in the dumbest timeline.

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Re: Stonks
« Reply #86 on: April 08, 2025, 11:28:14 AM »

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Re: Stonks
« Reply #87 on: April 08, 2025, 12:04:16 PM »
Business Insider headline.

"Why stocks are jumping after 3 days of brutal losses"

Yesterday was not brutal.


The markets may go positive again, but the US is now seen as a pariah in any trade alliances going forward, not to mention global security and intelligence sharing.

Also: https://x.com/AaronBlake/status/1909350206434324728
I don't think anyone knows what anyone else is doing up there. The very definition of a clusterfuck.
 

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« Reply #88 on: April 08, 2025, 12:09:32 PM »
The 3 day loss was brutal, and a big chunk of it was yesterday, and the close was not nearly as bad as the low. This was a sequence as bad as 1987

It starts to smell more and more like performance art.
Peter Navarro is the tariff architect.
Elon Musk is the golden boy of DOGE

Today Musk calls Navarro dumber than a sack of bricks? How's that gonna dovetail in the Trump orbit? His two front and center guys slinging mud at each other? I didn't sell jack shit because I figure the US Economy is too big a ship for even these dumbshits to sink, and that there was a fairly high percentage chance this was just a show in order to grift off front running the market with chaos.

If that's true, Musk is the dumbest patsy in the world. If they "come up with a deal!" on tariffs which basically results in not much actually changing, we'll all sail along except that Musk has done permanent damage to his brand, which will be hundreds of billions of real dollars in market cap for Tesla. Shit, now he's even done more damage by ripping on Trump's key appointee - now everyone will hate him!

Thing is - there is video of Trump in the 80's talking about how great tariffs are. So it's not like he never believed this shit and just decided to fuck up the market for a few days so his cronies can exploit it. Is someone pulling his strings, levering off his stupidity to front run a market crash, then organize what's effectively a fake deal that Trump will think is a huge win?

A lot of real people are collateral damage in all this. A lot of suppliers did in fact raise prices on goods based on presumed tariffs, and a lot of small businesses got fucked in the process, even if they do a "nevermind"

We live in the dumbest timeline.

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Re: Stonks
« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2025, 12:23:30 PM »


In 96, we needed tariffs in some specific areas

Today - unless you want to quit your job and start putting tiny screws into iPhones, we don't.