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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2024, 02:27:09 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 12, 2024, 02:23:18 PM
Good.  Our coach has a hell of a lot better resume than the guy they hired.  That's a good thing for us.

Meanwhile, while the bluest of blue blood targeted Hurley/Donovan/Drew/Wright and got Mark Pope, you still think it'd be fine if Underwood left.

I'm sure we'd do better though - how could iouwe do worse than Underachiever after all?  He got smoked by UConn in the Elite 8!

I'm just glad we don't have morons like you running the program.  It's why we're nationally relevant again.

Illinois to KY is not an apples-to-apples comparison.  Illinois can hire an up and comer like Bill Self back in the day.  KY isn't doing that unless the guy is a former player.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2024, 02:28:19 PM »
Hahahahahahahahaha
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2024, 02:28:59 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 12, 2024, 02:24:05 PM
If your history is any indication, this probably means they asked him and he turned them down.

A dude who has the worst take on literally everything.  It's almost impressive.

If it's true, then I'm glad.  We have a better coach than the guy they got.

He would have taken the job if he was asked, and the money was right, of course. Who is sticking at Illinois when you can be the KY coach?
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2024, 02:29:25 PM »
You really think KY and Illinois are analogous? LOL.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2024, 02:30:30 PM »
Maybe KY texted Underachiever. It could not hurt to do so.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2024, 02:32:01 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 12, 2024, 02:29:25 PM
You really think KY and Illinois are analogous? LOL.

Nope, I think UK is typically going to be a bigger draw for coaches than Illinois is.  Which is why I find it so funny that you think we’d do so much better than they did in our coaching search in the same situation.

The bluest blood program targeted the best coaches in the game, got turned down by all of them, and settled for their 5th choice who’s never won a tournament game.  But Illinois would do better if their coach left.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2024, 02:36:18 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 12, 2024, 02:32:01 PM
Nope, I think UK is typically going to be a bigger draw for coaches than Illinois is.  Which is why I find it so funny that you think we’d do so much better than they did in our coaching search in the same situation.

The bluest blood program targeted the best coaches in the game, got turned down by all of them, and settled for their 5th choice who’s never won a tournament game.  But Illinois would do better if their coach left.

Nice strawman. I said they are not analogous and don't swim in the same pond. KY either goes after top tier coaches,  which Underachiever is not one of them, or former players. They are not looking at Underachiever or the Latest Tournament Flash In The Pan like John Groce. What happened to KY has absolutely nothing to do with Illinois searching for a new coach, like a young up and coming coach, in the event Underachiever went to Kansas State.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2024, 02:36:51 PM »
Hahahahahahaha amazing
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2024, 02:37:13 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 12, 2024, 02:04:38 PM
2020:
BYU 13
UK 29

2021:
BYU 20
UK 49

2022:
BYU 58
UK 6

2023:
BYU 77
UK 27

2024:
BYU 18
UK 23

So yes that's true that 3/5 years they have finished ahead of UK, but over that span, BYU average final KP ranking is 37.2 and UK's is 26.8.

I think there's a reasonable chance Pope ends up as being a good hire, sometimes people figure it out when they have more resources etc.  But there'll be a lot of pressure, a lot of rebuilding to do, and he has no high-level success to point to really.  Certainly to go from Hurley/Drew/Wright/Donovan as your primary targets to getting a dude who's never won a tournament game is something, our fans would riot and we are not UK.

I mean still, that's pretty impressive considering the limited recruiting pool you have at a place like BYU compared to Kentucky
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #114 on: April 12, 2024, 02:38:01 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 12, 2024, 02:36:51 PM
Hahahahahahaha amazing

Good to see you engaging in the same intellectual dishonesty you perpetually accuse Tempo of.
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« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2024, 02:38:24 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 12, 2024, 02:37:13 PM
I mean still, that's pretty impressive considering the limited recruiting pool you have at a place like BYU compared to Kentucky

As I mentioned, I think Pope is a solid coach with a chance at being a good hire.  Obviously people would lose their minds if we made a hire like that just like UK fans are though.

It’s a long way off from Billy Donovan and Jay Wright that’s for sure.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2024, 02:38:48 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 12, 2024, 02:38:01 PM
Good to see you engaging in the same intellectual dishonesty you perpetually accuse Tempo of.

It’s not intellectually dishonest to mock dipshits with terrible takes
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2024, 02:39:20 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on April 12, 2024, 02:37:13 PM
I mean still, that's pretty impressive considering the limited recruiting pool you have at a place like BYU compared to Kentucky

You know the ex-BYU coach got the KY job because he went to KY....
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2024, 02:39:42 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on April 12, 2024, 02:22:04 PM
If KY wanted Underachiever he would be gone.

what about Painter, why not go for him since he owns Underwood and KU
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Re: Coaching Carousel Update
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2024, 02:40:58 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on April 12, 2024, 02:38:48 PM
It’s not intellectually dishonest to mock dipshits with terrible takes

You just created a Strawman and attacked. Just like you accuse Tempo of doing.  Of course this occurred since what I originally posted  was accurate.
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