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TSJ suspended charged with rape

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #390 on: January 16, 2024, 06:21:37 PM »
You mean this alleged crime lab expert that changed his story?:

nichi said:
How about from underwear? She told the investigator he put his hands inside her underwear at the leg opening. The underwear were collected as evidence at the hospital.

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Ah, I was not as informed on this info. Could be possible to pick him up on the underwear that way. We routinely swab wristbands, cuffs, elastic, etc for touch DNA in these scenarios.

Well he didn't change his story. His initial statement was about the ability to separate her bodily fluids and any of his DNA he possibly left from touch enough that was definitive and he stated that it was not likely possible.
You added another location in your question. He said that could be possible.
But the other poster who was the alleged legal expert on the how these charges can reach this level has stated that the absence does not actually exonerate him.
Of course, many on Loyalty are now in an uproar assuming she has simply made an unfounded false claim for sport or money and has a DA with an agenda in complicity with her.

I know we all want this to be resolved in his favor, but the DA office staff are not likely completely subjective deceptive or ignorant idiots who filed baseless charges that any Cousin Vinny could easily discredit.
They know what meets the criteria and apparently believe they can argue that for whatever reason after three months of consideration.
Nobody knows what they have. It very well may turn out to be not enough. Maybe they are completely incompetent and didn't realize this would have intense scrutiny.
Yes, it is all unusual.

The system will hopefully do its job as intended in the end.






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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #391 on: January 16, 2024, 06:30:56 PM »
It very well may turn out to be not enough. Maybe they are completely incompetent and didn't realize this would have intense scrutiny.
Yes, it is all unusual.

The system will hopefully do its job as intended in the end.

That’s just the issue though. Did the system do its job as intended in the end if that’s the case?! It actually ruined a kids life, who by all accounts is allegedly an upstanding individual. That’s the issue at hand here. The legal system (which is suppose to allow due process, and innocent until proven guilty) failed this person by dragging it out and doing him irreparable harm. If they brought a case as you stated above, they would be part of the problem. I don’t see any problem with debating that or seeing that side of the picture…
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #392 on: January 16, 2024, 06:35:46 PM »
There is a contingent that thinks the DA / ADA must have a lot more evidence they have yet to share.

It is hard to imagine what that could be.

The police interviewed the accuser and her sole witness.

According to Court filings, police didn't bother to interview Hobson, Harmon, or the KU players. It appears one KU player was interviewed in January after charges were filed.

The video evidence has been released.

There is wild speculation that TJ may have 'said something' to police when he was cooperating in late September..
« Last Edit: January 16, 2024, 06:39:48 PM by illiniray »
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #393 on: January 16, 2024, 06:51:07 PM »
That’s just the issue though. Did the system do its job as intended in the end if that’s the case?! It actually ruined a kids life, who by all accounts is allegedly an upstanding individual. That’s the issue at hand here. The legal system (which is suppose to allow due process, and innocent until proven guilty) failed this person by dragging it out and doing him irreparable harm. If they brought a case as you stated above, they would be part of the problem. I don’t see any problem with debating that or seeing that side of the picture…

Yes, the timeline seems unusual, but I don't know the standard allowable timeframe process for evaluating a complaint and filing charges to judge that.
Inefficiency is not necessarily malice with intent to harm his earning ability or career. Maybe this is a normal timeframe. Pretty big hill to climb there.  If, however, improprieties are uncovered then he has a federal civil rights case and grounds for a civil suit.
He is technically getting due process, albeit, it is slow, and is innocent until proven guilty.

One possible scenario if this all fails apart in the end is he gets picked up as FA after the draft.
Not sure where he can play in the interim in US or overseas, but if he is good enough they will find him.
Yes, he would likely lose his initial guaranteed contract money if he was truly late first round which is where he was starting to show up.

It all sucks and nothing wrong with debating it, but in the end nobody knows WTF is going on or what is going to happen. 
I just have a wait and see perspective.




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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #394 on: January 16, 2024, 06:52:37 PM »
There is a contingent that thinks the DA / ADA must have a lot more evidence they have yet to share.

It is hard to imagine what that could be.

The police interviewed the accuser and her sole witness.

According to Court filings, police didn't bother to interview Hobson, Harmon, or the KU players. It appears one KU player was interviewed in January after charges were filed.

The video evidence has been released.

There is wild speculation that TJ may have 'said something' to police when he was cooperating in late September..

Said something as in a statement that was incriminating?

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #395 on: January 16, 2024, 07:01:54 PM »
What's the latest, any chance this gets resolved in the next week and he's back on the court soon? 

Seems like nothing happened. Some bump and grind and wandering hands. That's not rape.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #396 on: January 16, 2024, 07:05:02 PM »
Said something as in a statement that was incriminating?

There was speculation without evidence to that effect. 
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #397 on: January 16, 2024, 07:09:45 PM »
Loyalty insiders have gone quiet. One says we might hear something tomorrow or the next day.

It's hard to say what lack of a quick answer means.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #398 on: January 16, 2024, 09:40:16 PM »
Before everyone gets their tit in a wringer,  isn't the preliminary hearing set for Friday? Some of the issues raised may be addressed then.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #399 on: January 16, 2024, 09:41:42 PM »
Loyalty insiders have gone quiet. One says we might hear something tomorrow or the next day.

It's hard to say what lack of a quick answer means.

Maybe they are trading notes on how to troll everyone over there
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #400 on: January 16, 2024, 09:45:27 PM »
Before everyone gets their tit in a wringer,  isn't the preliminary hearing set for Friday? Some of the issues raised may be addressed then.

Sound like that hearing might be a nothing burger.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #401 on: January 16, 2024, 09:57:47 PM »
Sound like that hearing might be a nothing burger.

Always possible. But why do you believe that?
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #404 on: January 17, 2024, 07:48:34 AM »
Wasn't bond already set and he posted it?
I assume he's in step 2.

No Go Prelim, Docket Setting, Status Setting. Defendant appears on a docket. Next court date is set. This setting can be repeated a number of times.