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TSJ suspended charged with rape

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #330 on: January 10, 2024, 02:35:56 PM »
There isn’t “one way” people react when they’re in shock.

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« Reply #331 on: January 10, 2024, 02:37:33 PM »
There may be a $$ grab settling out, but the DA still is the only ones that can dismiss or drop suit regardless...at least that is my legal acumen...yes I know limited is overstatement to say the least.

My ? is that in her comments, she "stated paraphrased here" that I was shocked, had a phone in one hand and a drink in the other. I didn't know what to do, I was shocked....a shocked person, one who is a female especially might throw the drink on a person if they were inappropriately touched/molested/raped/etc...or is that just too obvious?

How about you stop hypothesizing about the alleged victim and her intent.
 

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« Reply #332 on: January 10, 2024, 02:52:07 PM »
How about you stop hypothesizing about the alleged victim and her intent.
 

I stated what I thought she MAY have done...not what her intent was? What she MAY have done is called a reaction, not an intent. If she had intent, then she MAY have intended to throw the drink in shock, and then the intent MAY have been to douse the alleged person causing the reaction.

I see ya down there tryin to get recognized, keep tryin to get in the game....meanwhile I will live rent free.
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« Reply #333 on: January 10, 2024, 02:53:24 PM »
There isn’t “one way” people react when they’re in shock.

This is very true...I am shocked LKDog continues to be an idiot, I am shocked DumbF*&knic came back....I am not shocked that either do not realize they are ridiculous in nature on here.
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« Reply #334 on: January 10, 2024, 03:43:45 PM »
Lkdog is right.  Speculating on the basis of “if this happened why didn’t she throw a drink in his face?” is ignorant.

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« Reply #335 on: January 10, 2024, 03:49:32 PM »
This is very true...I am shocked LKDog continues to be an idiot, I am shocked DumbF*&knic came back....I am not shocked that either do not realize they are ridiculous in nature on here.

You might want to sit a few plays out. Like most people here I just usually ignore you.

You might wish to re-read your comments about the alleged victim, however.
They were offensive - even for here.




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« Reply #336 on: January 11, 2024, 12:12:10 AM »
You might want to sit a few plays out. Like most people here I just usually ignore you.

You might wish to re-read your comments about the alleged victim, however.
They were offensive - even for here.


Usually ignore me???? You comment on my posts more than anyone else, it ain't even close either. Stay on the bench, if I am offensive to you, than I guess that  I am just returning the favor, although with me, you are simply an annoyance at best. I see ya down there on the bench though....
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« Reply #337 on: January 11, 2024, 12:17:44 AM »
Lkdog is right.  Speculating on the basis of “if this happened why didn’t she throw a drink in his face?” is ignorant.

Tea for two? It is a forum to discuss things, us three aren't the only ones on here discussing and playing hypothetical's on here either.

 I was speculating on what her or another in the same situation as presented in legal documents in this case may or may not have done when shocked in a situation holding a drink? It is a fair inquiry imo, thanks for chiming in.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #338 on: January 11, 2024, 01:27:58 AM »

 There is no legal protected right to play an extracurricular sport for a college.

The state of Illinois might possibly disagree. This is from loyalty. I was unable to independently verify the content.

"TSJ's lawyers also point to the case of State of Ohio v. NCAA in which the State of Illinois (along with several other states) sought a TRO to enjoin the NCAA from enforcing the "Transfer Eligibility Rule," and argued that athletes subject to the "Transfer Eligibility Rule" will suffer immediate and irreparable harm by continuing to be barred from competing and risking ineligibility. This supports the argument for a TRO because TSJ will likewise suffer immediate and irreparable harm if not allowed to play."

Me: The whole NIL thing, immediate eligibility for xfers, and intra conference xfers are all based on the notion that student athletes do have some basic rights. This is a huge change from the past.

Same poster also claims they pointed to "the recent case of Pop Isaacs at Texas Tech. Isaacs was allowed to practice and play while Texas Tech's Title IX office investigated the allegations of sexual misconduct ..."

If true, that supports their title 9 argument.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #339 on: January 11, 2024, 02:04:51 AM »
A number of posters in various forums commented on the details of the affidavit.

Specifically some commented on the part about the alleged victim being unable to respond because she was holding a drink in one hand and a phone in the other hand. She also said she froze due to shock and the crowded room made it difficult to move.

The accuser also said her friend was standing next to her, but that person did not see anything. She also reportedly did not know which hand the alleged attacker used. The friend said she was busy talking to others in the room.

The alleged victim also said her alleged attacker had a woman on his arm, but that woman, as far as anyone knows, did not react and has not been identified or interviewed.

While not specifically stated, the accusers description of events gives the impression that everyone was standing.

Assuming that is correct, several questioned whether it is physically possible for a 6-6 man to do what was alleged to a woman of average height, without creating an attention attracting scene. It is possible, the alleged victim is exceptionally tall. Or perhaps he was seated?

Others even questioned the accusers claim that the drink she was holding was her first of the night and she only had a couple sips and was therefore sober. The two reportedly had been to at least one other bar.

Meanwhile, the GA that chaperoned Shannon and Harmon was with him the entire night and witnessed nothing like the alleged victim described.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2024, 02:06:40 AM by illiniray »
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #340 on: January 11, 2024, 06:42:39 AM »
Wait a minute. They had a grad assistant chaperoning them, and one of them still got charged with rape?

Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #341 on: January 11, 2024, 07:54:16 AM »
Our fans are fucking embarrassing man

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« Reply #342 on: January 11, 2024, 07:57:05 AM »
Tea for two? It is a forum to discuss things, us three aren't the only ones on here discussing and playing hypothetical's on here either.

 I was speculating on what her or another in the same situation as presented in legal documents in this case may or may not have done when shocked in a situation holding a drink? It is a fair inquiry imo, thanks for chiming in.

It was a silly question of the sort meant only to undercut someone’s credibility via ignorance.  That she didn’t throw a drink in his face is not at all relevant.

Obviously you’re welcome to post whatever stupid shit you’d like, but I assume others are also welcome to point out how stupid and offensive it is when you do.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #343 on: January 11, 2024, 08:14:36 AM »
The state of Illinois might possibly disagree. This is from loyalty. I was unable to independently verify the content.

"TSJ's lawyers also point to the case of State of Ohio v. NCAA in which the State of Illinois (along with several other states) sought a TRO to enjoin the NCAA from enforcing the "Transfer Eligibility Rule," and argued that athletes subject to the "Transfer Eligibility Rule" will suffer immediate and irreparable harm by continuing to be barred from competing and risking ineligibility. This supports the argument for a TRO because TSJ will likewise suffer immediate and irreparable harm if not allowed to play."

Me: The whole NIL thing, immediate eligibility for xfers, and intra conference xfers are all based on the notion that student athletes do have some basic rights. This is a huge change from the past.

Same poster also claims they pointed to "the recent case of Pop Isaacs at Texas Tech. Isaacs was allowed to practice and play while Texas Tech's Title IX office investigated the allegations of sexual misconduct ..."

If true, that supports their title 9 argument.

Did the Loyalty guys mention which crime Pop Isaacs was charged with?

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #344 on: January 11, 2024, 11:49:57 AM »
Did the Loyalty guys mention which crime Pop Isaacs was charged with?

Are you saying an athlete who is being sued for sexual misconduct with a drunk 16 year old has title IX rights, but if he had been charged; he would not? I don't see the logic.

Either a student athlete has a tight to a title 9 investigation or not.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2024, 12:05:52 PM by illiniray »
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