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TSJ suspended charged with rape

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #210 on: January 03, 2024, 01:15:46 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 03, 2024, 01:14:32 PM
Yes, the reason I think it’s fucked up to publicly speculate with zero evidence whatsoever about an open felony rape case because you like the basketball team the accused plays on is because I have a complex.

So tell us, what’s that gonna effect discussing those things here?
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #211 on: January 03, 2024, 01:21:03 PM »
Why did someone start this thread?! We shouldn’t be discussing this at all! Take it down please…
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #212 on: January 03, 2024, 01:22:40 PM »
It’s certainly going to be a huge embarrassment for our fanbase if there is damning evidence we don’t know about and we’ve been going after the accuser, the DA, the police department non stop.  But what else is new re: our fans being cringey and embarrassing and putting sports above peoples’ lives?

There’s no possible way for a “wait until there’s evidence to go on, quit speculating” take to end up looking bad but spreading these rumors and innuendos around in an extremely serious situation certainly has the potential to look very, very bad.

If this was happening at another school - say, Kansas or Michigan - our fans would be fucking losing their minds about it.

And it doesn’t take a genius obviously to see that justice isn’t really the aim here.  The aim is to get a good basketball player back on the team we follow.  It’s shameful.

If Shannon is truly innocent that will come out in time whether we rush here to post every evidence free rumor on Illini Twitter or not.  It’s really not that difficult to wait until we have SOMETHING to go on.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #213 on: January 03, 2024, 01:23:49 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 03, 2024, 01:21:03 PM
Why did someone start this thread?! We shouldn’t be discussing this at all! Take it down please…

You make Truth come off super intelligent and well considered.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #214 on: January 03, 2024, 01:25:19 PM »
Quote from: Lkdog on January 03, 2024, 12:41:57 PM
Yeah, I am sure she has "tried this with Kansas players", but was not successful in bringing charges but when Illinois was in town the DA was all over it.  ::)

Nobody knows if that rumor is true or partially true.

Charles E. Branson was a long time DA there from 2005 - 2021.

I have to go. More later..
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #215 on: January 03, 2024, 01:25:54 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 03, 2024, 01:23:49 PM
You make Truth come off super intelligent and well considered.

Oh look, here’s Spark again being a douchebag…
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #216 on: January 03, 2024, 02:00:59 PM »
I hope Teamwork Orange/Chimpanzee comes by to weigh in on these rumors.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #217 on: January 03, 2024, 03:59:37 PM »
Our fan base was very tough on Jamar Smith.

The response is different this time for valid reasons.

This looks like the ADA is trying to  charge TSJ with Rape by deception.

Also, the forcible rape might have been an act of consensual mutual masturbation.

Kansas law does does have 2 specific sections that refer to rape by misrepresentation. Neither cover the alleged victim thinking the accused is a FB player when he is actually a BB player.

However, KS law does require that consent be clear and informed. If it is unclear and misinformed; it could perhaps be withdrawn after the fact? For example, when the accuser learns he was a basketball player, not a FB player? If there is no consent, then it becomes forcible rape?


The police report indicates both charges refer to the same brief incident; which took place in a bar or club. While the specific bar is not identified, it a popular hot spot.

The report indicates the misdemeanor sexual assault involved a personal weapon and alcohol, but the forcible rape did not.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #218 on: January 03, 2024, 04:43:20 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 03, 2024, 01:25:19 PM
Nobody knows if that rumor is true or partially true.

Charles E. Branson was a long time DA there from 2005 - 2021.

I have to go. More later..

Suzanne Valdez was elected in 2020 and took over in 2021.

A big reason for the change was a controversial rape case involving a KU student. After the student decided not to testify, Branson initially charged her with filing a false rape report out of revenge and regret.

Brandon dropped the charges, but that was a central campaign issue in 2020. That, and apparently being tough on prosecuting sexual assault in general.

There is no evidence that the case was basketball related.

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #219 on: January 03, 2024, 07:49:41 PM »
I have zero issue with stuff like that being posted especially on this previously multi-failed forum.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #220 on: January 03, 2024, 07:50:56 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on January 03, 2024, 07:49:41 PM
I have zero issue with stuff like that being posted especially on this previously multi-failed forum.

Yeah, fuck Spark. Actually I think I found him on Twitter… 😂

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #221 on: January 03, 2024, 08:46:25 PM »
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #222 on: January 03, 2024, 08:53:08 PM »
People lying and being self righteous on twitter?  No way that never happens!
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #223 on: January 03, 2024, 09:27:16 PM »
I knew some hall monitor types when I was a kid. They grow up.

I like it better when we are ferreting out the rumor mills rather than engaging in pissing contexts..
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #224 on: January 03, 2024, 09:36:29 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 03, 2024, 09:27:16 PM
I knew some hall monitor types when I was a kid. They grow up.

I like it better when we are ferreting out the rumor mills rather than engaging in pissing contexts..

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