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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #5025 on: September 29, 2024, 06:36:01 PM »
LOL. I'd take Pickens over any Chicago receiver at this point.  He makes difficult catches and knows how to push off without getting caught. I'd take Friermuth simply because he blocks and does not false start 5x a game, as opposed to All Pro Kmet. The Steeler OL looks far better than the Bear, and the snaps are at least to the QB even if they hit Fields in the head.
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« Reply #5026 on: September 29, 2024, 06:36:48 PM »
FFS, I sure hope if he’s an NFL starter he’s played better after 40+ starts than a rookie has.  To even compare the two is ridiculous. 

If Caleb looks like Fields did in year 3 there will be a lot of calls to move on from him too, as there should be.

Thusfar I haven’t seen anything that’d make me think the Bears made the wrong decision, or anything close to that.  Caleb pretty clearly has a sky high ceiling, and I don’t think Fields’ ceiling is much higher than we’ve seen in his first 40 games.
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« Reply #5027 on: September 29, 2024, 06:39:33 PM »
Quote from: Decided Schematic Disadvantage on September 29, 2024, 06:25:04 PM
I really don’t know what you guys think I’ve said re: Justin. All I’ve ever said is that I think he can still be good, and that a lot of the problems weren’t all on him. Just as a lot of the Bears’ current problems aren’t all on Caleb. I’ve never once made the case Justin was a polished franchise quarterback. Not one time.

He threw for 300 yards today! Although it should not count (like his end of the half INTs should never count) since he was over the LOS on one of those throws but it was not reviewed (except on TV).
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« Reply #5028 on: September 29, 2024, 06:42:06 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on September 29, 2024, 06:36:48 PM
FFS, I sure hope if he’s an NFL starter he’s played better after 40+ starts than a rookie has.  To even compare the two is ridiculous. 

If Caleb looks like Fields did in year 3 there will be a lot of calls to move on from him too, as there should be.

Thusfar I haven’t seen anything that’d make me think the Bears made the wrong decision, or anything close to that.  Caleb pretty clearly has a sky high ceiling, and I don’t think Fields’ ceiling is much higher than we’ve seen in his first 40 games.

Well you compared the offenses, which is a defacto comparison. Fields has played well this year, despite not running a lot and playing on an offense that’s probably bottom 6 in talent. As opposed to the Bears top 6 in talent.
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« Reply #5029 on: September 29, 2024, 06:43:57 PM »
Quote from: Decided Schematic Disadvantage on September 29, 2024, 06:42:06 PM
Well you compared the offenses, which is a defacto comparison. Fields has played well this year, despite not running a lot and playing on an offense that’s probably bottom 6 in talent. As opposed to the Bears top 6 in talent.

We have seen zilch for you to claim the Bear have top 6 talent. That is patently absurd, but par for the course.
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« Reply #5030 on: September 29, 2024, 06:44:07 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 29, 2024, 06:39:33 PM
He threw for 300 yards today! Although it should not count (like his end of the half INTs should never count) since he was over the LOS on one of those throws but it was not reviewed (except on TV).

One of those end of half INTs was literally not caught by the defender and the other was kicked to a defender after Darnell Mooney dropped it. Hail Mary’s are the very definition of 50/50 balls. It’s not on the quarterback if those get intercepted. Unless you’re a moron.
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« Reply #5031 on: September 29, 2024, 06:45:37 PM »
Quote from: Decided Schematic Disadvantage on September 29, 2024, 06:44:07 PM
One of those end of half INTs was literally not caught by the defender and the other was kicked to a defender after Darnell Mooney dropped it. Hail Mary’s are the very definition of 50/50 balls. It’s not on the quarterback if those get intercepted. Unless you’re a moron.

Should we count the INT that would have happened on the last Steeler play today but for the fact it was fourth down so the Colt just, smartly, batted it down?
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« Reply #5032 on: September 29, 2024, 06:45:45 PM »
Quote from: Decided Schematic Disadvantage on September 29, 2024, 06:42:06 PM
Well you compared the offenses, which is a defacto comparison. Fields has played well this year, despite not running a lot and playing on an offense that’s probably bottom 6 in talent. As opposed to the Bears top 6 in talent.

I compared how he has been universally praised, and the Bears’ offense has been universally criticized, for extremely similar production.

Bragging that he’s better in starts 39-42 than Caleb has been in starts 1-4 (ignoring that their production has been similar) is wild, but on brand.  Thats how standards work with you and Fields.  Whatever makes him look good - if he doesn’t produce much but wins because his defense gives up 10, praise - his stats don’t matter, they won!  And if he puts up big numbers but still only slightly above average production in terms of points and they lose - sure but did you see his stats?
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« Reply #5033 on: September 29, 2024, 06:45:50 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 29, 2024, 06:43:57 PM
We have seen zilch for you to claim the Bear have top 6 talent. Thath is patently absurd, but par for the course.

On paper, absolutely they do. Many people said the Bears have the top WR trio in the league. It’s (the offense) at the very worst top 10. And that’s 20 spots higher than was Justin was usually working with.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #5034 on: September 29, 2024, 06:47:10 PM »
There isn’t a person who covers football who think the Steelers are a talented offensive team. They are at best top 22. That’s being generous IMO.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #5035 on: September 29, 2024, 06:47:52 PM »
Quote from: Decided Schematic Disadvantage on September 29, 2024, 06:45:50 PM
On paper, absolutely they do. Many people said the Bears have the top WR trio in the league. It’s (the offense) at the very worst top 10. And that’s 20 spots higher than was Justin was usually working with.

Links?

Bear receivers aren't as wide open as Steeler receivers. Then again, the Steeler receivers run their routes hard, unlike Lazy Rich DJ Moore.
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« Reply #5036 on: September 29, 2024, 06:48:36 PM »
Quote from: Decided Schematic Disadvantage on September 29, 2024, 06:47:10 PM
There isn’t a person who covers football who think the Steelers are a talented offensive team. They are at best top 22. That’s being generous IMO.

Yet before today, Fields was top 3 in time to throw.
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« Reply #5037 on: September 29, 2024, 06:57:04 PM »
Again, I don’t know what you guys think I’ve said about Justin other than he’s a dynamic talent that I think can still be really good if given adequate support. I’ve never once said he’s a polished franchise QB.
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« Reply #5038 on: September 29, 2024, 06:57:43 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on September 29, 2024, 06:48:36 PM
Yet before today, Fields was top 3 in time to throw.

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« Reply #5039 on: September 29, 2024, 06:59:26 PM »
The denigration of those around Fields' (teammates and/or coaches) to prop him up is Tempo Standard though.
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