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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #4635 on: August 19, 2024, 11:26:19 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:23:00 AM
I would challenge anyone to quote a post where I said Justin was a finished product or even “a great QB.”He has great “WOW” moments, but I’ve never tried to make the case he doesn’t need to improve. Never. As in not once. Ever.

We went through all last football season with you defending him against criticism. That's all I'm going to say about it. I'm not going to look back and mine for quotes. You would not allow anyone to criticize his play.



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« Reply #4636 on: August 19, 2024, 11:26:31 AM »
And the fumbles are something that still worries me. Just not seeing progress there, and that’s a major concern.
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« Reply #4637 on: August 19, 2024, 11:27:10 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:25:09 AM
He makes some great throws. He needs to get rid of it faster, and be better with the layups. I’ve never argued otherwise. Ever. Again, I challenge someone to quote something to the contrary. Saying he’s had poor support isn’t the same as saying he can’t do more to help himself. I’ve said he needs to do more to help himself probably 20x at least.

Again. We went through it all last season. You would not allow criticism of him. It sucked.
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« Reply #4638 on: August 19, 2024, 11:27:38 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:26:31 AM
And the fumbles are something that still worries me. Just not seeing progress there, and that’s a major concern.

Doesn't worry me at all. Because he's not here anymore.
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« Reply #4639 on: August 19, 2024, 11:27:51 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on August 19, 2024, 11:26:19 AM
We went through all last football season with you defending him against criticism. That's all I'm going to say about it. I'm not going to look back and mine for quotes. You would not allow anyone to criticize his play.

I never “defended him against criticism.” I tried to spread some of the blame around, which I think is fair. Spark, PAMan, and apparently you disagree.
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« Reply #4640 on: August 19, 2024, 11:28:37 AM »
Justin can’t catch perfectly thrown balls on 4th down or make what’s his face not fumble trying to gain more yards.
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« Reply #4641 on: August 19, 2024, 11:29:27 AM »
And I still maintain the OL couldn’t pass block a lick on OBVIOUS passing downs.
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« Reply #4642 on: August 19, 2024, 11:30:14 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:27:51 AM
I never “defended him against criticism.” I tried to spread some of the blame around, which I think is fair. Spark, PAMan, and apparently you disagree.

It was totally fair. I spread the blame around too. The offense wasn't good, and it wasn't all his fault.

With that being said, I do think guys got NFL open, and he couldn't find them. That definitely happened.

And yes, you vehemently defended him.
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« Reply #4643 on: August 19, 2024, 11:30:44 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:28:37 AM
Justin can’t catch perfectly thrown balls on 4th down or make what’s his face not fumble trying to gain more yards.

Yep, here we go. Let's not do this again. Jesus.
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« Reply #4644 on: August 19, 2024, 11:32:07 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:29:27 AM
And I still maintain the OL couldn’t pass block a lick on OBVIOUS passing downs.

That line was good enough. There were a lot of occasions where he had time to throw and he was standing there patting the ball, just itching to start running.

We'll see it in Pittsburgh, if he plays.
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« Reply #4645 on: August 19, 2024, 11:32:42 AM »
I “vehemently” defended him from the notion he was supposed to somehow overcome the complete inadequacy around him. That’s it. I’ve acknowledged his warts many times.
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« Reply #4646 on: August 19, 2024, 11:34:28 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on August 19, 2024, 11:32:07 AM
That line was good enough. There were a lot of occasions where he had time to throw and he was standing there patting the ball, just itching to start running.

We'll see it in Pittsburgh, if he plays.

Agreed. I’ve even said this a couple of times in the last half hour. This doesn’t change the fact the OL couldn’t block on obvious passing downs. Both things can be true.
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« Reply #4647 on: August 19, 2024, 11:36:28 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on August 19, 2024, 11:32:42 AM
I “vehemently” defended him from the notion he was supposed to somehow overcome the complete inadequacy around him. That’s it. I’ve acknowledged his warts many times.

It wasn't complete inadequacy. We can definitely disagree on that. Yes, his line wasn't the greatest, but he had time to throw and they could run the ball a little bit. There were other quarterbacks in much worse places that were just as serviceable.
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« Reply #4648 on: August 19, 2024, 11:37:25 AM »
Quote from: Jobu on August 19, 2024, 11:36:28 AM
There were other quarterbacks in much worse places that were just as serviceable.

Like who.
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« Reply #4649 on: August 19, 2024, 11:38:23 AM »
“Much worse” than what Justin had year 2? That may have been the worst NFL roster in the last 6-8 years.
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