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« Reply #3720 on: January 09, 2024, 07:28:08 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 07:26:53 PM
I’ve said dozens of times here that Justin needs to help his own cause by playing better.

Is it possible that what he has been is just what he is?
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« Reply #3721 on: January 09, 2024, 07:34:52 PM »
It’s possible.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3722 on: January 09, 2024, 08:09:30 PM »
Yes. It’s possible he just is what he is. And while I know that by now we want to see more than “flashes,” I don’t feel the coaching and talent around him have been anything near good enough. Scoff if you want to, but things like Pro Bowlers matters. Olin Kreutz talks about having multiple “top 5” players at their positions. We might finally have ONE in Jalon Johnson.

Look at the amount of Pro Bowls and continuity on the Eagles offense. It far exceeds the Bears. As does the overall talent. I have not seen Jalen Hurts do anything that I don’t think Justin Fields can do. Hurts has better coaching and talent around him.

A major reason I still believe in Fields are his intangibles. His work ethic. His leadership. His toughness. His character. His arm talent. And his insane athletic ability. You obviously disagree, but I do not think Fields has reached his ceiling. And I think his floor is pretty high. Most quarterbacks would not still be attractive trade targets after going through what Fields has gone through for 3 years. It would have ruined most QBs in my opinion. Look at Zach Wilson and Mac Jones. No one will trade for them and start them next year.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3723 on: January 09, 2024, 08:09:36 PM »
Blink twice if you're in trouble and need help Tempo
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« Reply #3724 on: January 09, 2024, 08:18:51 PM »
Shifting gears, I have not heard anything close to an actual report on the topic; but the Chargers are having major cap problems and in need of a rebuild, or at least an overhaul. I would not rule out the Chargers trading Herbert, and I’d definitely give them the 1st pick for him.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3725 on: January 09, 2024, 08:19:33 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 09, 2024, 08:09:36 PM
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I don’t get it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3726 on: January 09, 2024, 08:30:05 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 09, 2024, 08:09:36 PM
Blink twice if you're in trouble and need help Tempo

Are you making fun of me, or is that weird way to say you find what I wrote as reasonable? My guess is you’re mocking me.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3727 on: January 09, 2024, 09:15:10 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 08:30:05 PM
Are you making fun of me, or is that weird way to say you find what I wrote as reasonable? My guess is you’re mocking me.

Both.  :)

I thought it was nice to see you acknowledge that maybe Fields is actually the guy he's been so far.
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« Reply #3728 on: January 09, 2024, 09:59:22 PM »
And I’ll be honest, I don’t know how you go from this to “can’t pass.” I realize college to pro isn’t always easy to project. And as i understand it they take into account ball placement and throws with anticipation. I really feel like some deprogrammed Justin Fields.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-chicago-bears-justin-fields-most-accurate-quarteback-ohio-state-pff-college-era#:~:text=PFF%20Data%20Study%3A%20Justin%20Fields,News%2C%20Rankings%20and%20Statistics%20%7C%20PFF
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3729 on: January 09, 2024, 10:08:48 PM »
Thought this was funny in its own way (and of course, I agree!). Smokin’ Jay is Team Justin!

https://x.com/chgo_bears/status/1744907481103454269?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3730 on: January 09, 2024, 10:19:56 PM »
Quote from: Fields First Fan on January 09, 2024, 09:59:22 PM
And I’ll be honest, I don’t know how you go from this to “can’t pass.” I realize college to pro isn’t always easy to project. And as i understand it they take into account ball placement and throws with anticipation. I really feel like some deprogrammed Justin Fields.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-chicago-bears-justin-fields-most-accurate-quarteback-ohio-state-pff-college-era#:~:text=PFF%20Data%20Study%3A%20Justin%20Fields,News%2C%20Rankings%20and%20Statistics%20%7C%20PFF

I hadn't realized this metric also said Trubisky is more accurate than Mahomes.  :)

I also think its pretty clear looking at this list that it isn't very predictive of NFL success.

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« Reply #3731 on: January 09, 2024, 10:22:35 PM »
I couldn’t give a fuck less what his accuracy was playing with team full of pros at Ohio State against mostly amateurs
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« Reply #3732 on: January 09, 2024, 10:25:52 PM »
Success, maybe not, but all NFL quarterbacks.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3733 on: January 09, 2024, 10:26:07 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 09, 2024, 10:22:35 PM
I couldn’t give a fuck less what his accuracy was playing with team full of pros at Ohio State against mostly amateurs

Lol
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3734 on: January 09, 2024, 10:27:39 PM »
All 23 NFL quarterbacks, and out of the 23 I’d say 14 or so at least had/having semi-respectable careers.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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