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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3225 on: December 29, 2023, 03:47:46 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 29, 2023, 03:03:52 PM
Fields doesn’t have 5-6 years in a good system, Andy Reid, Travis Kelce, and the same kind of draft capital invested in weaponry as Mahomes does. Nor as good of an offensive line. Not surprising you look at the passing yards and say “oh much better.” Ignoring the bad ratings.

Watching JT O’Sullivan’s All22 and he loved a snap and run by Fields on 3rd down. “I can’t tell you how much stress that puts on a defense.” Only passing statz matter.

LOL. Nagy sucks!
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« Reply #3226 on: December 29, 2023, 03:49:41 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 29, 2023, 03:25:43 PM
Most QBs would not still be desirable commodities after going through what Justin has gone through. He was hung out to dry year two and his sheer playmaking ability carried that offense to competency. Again, most former players speak pretty highly of him and say they should build around him. Passing stat nerds disagree.

Fields is not going to nut in your eye, no matter how hard you try.
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« Reply #3227 on: December 29, 2023, 03:50:10 PM »
“The interior of that offensive line has just been a dumpster fire all season, just shockingly incompetent.” JT O’Sullivan
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3228 on: December 29, 2023, 03:51:32 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 29, 2023, 03:44:10 PM
And 'easily his worst year' would be 'easily Fields' best year'.  That is the problem.  For all the 'he turned a corner' talk this year with Fields, he has not done that - he is still performing at a similar level he was performing at a year ago.

The negatives you're pointing out about Mahomes' production this year - completely fair to point out, he definitely hasn't been his usual self! - are better than Fields' peak.  Mahomes' passer rating right now would be his career low (as a starter) by 6 points, and would be Fields' career high by 7.  His QBR this season (63), is 0.8 points better than the worst of his career, and 19 points higher than Fields' this year (44).  It's 7 points higher than  Fields' last year, which was his best (56).

That you even want to compare these dudes is fucking embarrassing.

It is as if he is comparing Mitch to Manning...
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« Reply #3229 on: December 29, 2023, 03:52:23 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 29, 2023, 03:50:10 PM
“The interior of that offensive line has just been a dumpster fire all season, just shockingly incompetent.” JT O’Sullivan

Yet you mocked me for saying they needed more than a Center.

You really cannot make this stuff up.
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« Reply #3230 on: December 29, 2023, 03:52:39 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 29, 2023, 03:44:10 PM
And 'easily his worst year' would be 'easily Fields' best year'.  That is the problem.  For all the 'he turned a corner' talk this year with Fields, he has not done that - he is still performing at a similar level he was performing at a year ago.

The negatives you're pointing out about Mahomes' production this year - completely fair to point out, he definitely hasn't been his usual self! - are better than Fields' peak.  Mahomes' passer rating right now would be his career low (as a starter) by 6 points, and would be Fields' career high by 7.  His QBR this season (63), is 0.8 points better than the worst of his career, and 19 points higher than Fields' this year (44).  It's 7 points higher than  Fields' last year, which was his best (56).

That you even want to compare these dudes is fucking embarrassing.

One guy had a 3x SB roster/HOF coaching around him, the other went through the most obvious tank job in history his 2nd year. Which situation is not like the other? Hmmm…
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« Reply #3231 on: December 29, 2023, 03:54:35 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 29, 2023, 03:52:23 PM
Yet you mocked me for saying they needed more than a Center.

You really cannot make this stuff up.

I said many times they have the worst Center in the league. Your guard positions could be better, but they are not the most obvious needs, and they probably aren’t drafting over either of them this year, and it certainly wouldn’t prohibit you from taking Brock Bowers or a similar player 1st round.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3232 on: December 29, 2023, 03:56:23 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 29, 2023, 03:52:39 PM
One guy had a 3x SB roster/HOF coaching around him, the other went through the most obvious tank job in history his 2nd year. Which situation is not like the other? Hmmm…

YOU brought Mahomes up.  I think it’s insane to even think about comparing them.

I’m comfortable guessing that if you traded Fields for Mahomes, Mahomes would still be considerably better.  You?

Like you say “3x SB roster” which is true, but him being a multiple time MVP and SB MVP probably has something to do with that too.
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« Reply #3233 on: December 29, 2023, 03:58:05 PM »
Your literal response to drafting Brock Bowers was “can’t do that” need OL. Very very very few Centers or Guards are getting drafted in the top 10
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3234 on: December 29, 2023, 03:59:33 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 29, 2023, 03:54:35 PM
I said many times they have the worst Center in the league. Your guard positions could be better, but they are not the most obvious needs, and they probably aren’t drafting over either of them this year, and it certainly wouldn’t prohibit you from taking Brock Bowers or a similar player 1st round.

Pick a lane, Tempo, versus the different defense you come up for Fields each week.
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« Reply #3235 on: December 29, 2023, 04:00:06 PM »
I also said that offensive line play has been hurt by lack of continuity and experience together, and I would expect that to improve. They’ve only played a small handful of games as a healthy unit.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3236 on: December 29, 2023, 04:01:05 PM »
All the excuses coming out today. Joe Flacco says, "Pay me, not Fields!"
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« Reply #3237 on: December 29, 2023, 04:02:47 PM »
And on top of that both guards missed four or five starts as well, so that doesn’t help.
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« Reply #3238 on: December 29, 2023, 04:12:21 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 29, 2023, 04:02:47 PM
And on top of that both guards missed four or five starts as well, so that doesn’t help.
Poles bringing in great depth when not needlessly trading 2d round picks. Maybe should have pulled in some USFL guards like the Brown did.
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« Reply #3239 on: December 29, 2023, 04:12:59 PM »
Lol
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