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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3135 on: December 26, 2023, 12:29:25 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 23, 2023, 09:25:28 PM
Tempo, care to explain…

https://x.com/polesplseat/status/1738552561492254741?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Yes, I can explain this quite easily. First off, I don’t think you’re getting 3 1sts, 3 2nds, and a player for Caleb Williams. Something closer to what you got for Bryce Young sounds about  right (still a considerable haul, though). Depends on how far you were to trade down.

Secondly, there are always franchises desperate enough to give you the farm for fresh quarterback meat. Trey Lance, Mitchell Trubisky, Bryce Young,  etc. Even Fields commanded two 1st round picks on draft day and he didn’t even go top 10. Quarterbacks are like cars, once you drive it off the lot, it loses value. Especially if it’s not an All-Pro caliber player.

Would anyone give you what Carolina gave you for Bryce Young today? Of course not. Not even close. It is more likely than not, that a year from now we’ll be saying that so and so overpaid for Caleb Williams (should he be traded).

This is not complicated. It’s almost as simple as figuring out why 2024 free agents and draft picks aren’t helping the 2023 Bears.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3136 on: December 26, 2023, 12:42:13 PM »
Two 1sts and a 3rd to move up to 10th.

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« Reply #3137 on: December 26, 2023, 02:09:07 PM »
Trade the pick to Washington for a nice haul and Terry McLaurin. DJ, McLaurin, and Malik Nabers would be a massive upgrade in talent and make the Bears WR unit a top 5 in football. MHJ is probably going #2 to Arizona unless they trade down. Moore, McLaurin, Harrison Jr a possibility but more likely Nabers.

Plus, Washington sucks and you’d be drafting really high again next year. Possibly 1 again.

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« Reply #3138 on: December 26, 2023, 02:16:26 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 26, 2023, 02:09:07 PM
Trade the pick to Washington for a nice haul and Terry McLaurin. DJ, McLaurin, and Malik Nabers would be a massive upgrade in talent and make the Bears WR unit a top 5 in football. MHJ is probably going #2 to Arizona unless they trade down. Moore, McLaurin, Harrison Jr a possibility but more likely Nabers.

Plus, Washington sucks and you’d be drafting really high again next year. Possibly 1 again.

Sign me up today.

McLaurin, two 1st rounders, and two 2nd rounders (or 1 additional 1st instead of those two 2nd rounders) and I’ll justify trading it and sticking with Fields. Anything less than that and I say draft Williams.
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« Reply #3139 on: December 26, 2023, 02:17:39 PM »
Five years from now, I think if the Bears don’t draft Caleb Williams, they’re REALLY gonna regret it though.
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« Reply #3140 on: December 26, 2023, 02:18:19 PM »
Over the top hype goes both ways. I’m just not convinced Williams is a safe pick. Sure, he’s really talented. But so is everyone drafted #1 overall.

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« Reply #3141 on: December 26, 2023, 02:19:17 PM »
I think he’s talking about Tempo here and other FFF fans…

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« Reply #3142 on: December 26, 2023, 02:20:02 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 26, 2023, 02:17:39 PM
Five years from now, I think if the Bears don’t draft Caleb Williams, they’re REALLY gonna regret it though.

I’d say 70-80% of the QBs taken #1 in the last 40 years didn’t really work out. I’d be willing to build my roster, and add insane draft capital to ride the percentages.
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« Reply #3143 on: December 26, 2023, 02:22:38 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 26, 2023, 02:19:17 PM
I think he’s talking about Tempo here and other FFF fans…

https://x.com/jeremylayt0n/status/1739679424126103956?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

I’m old enough to remember how Chase Claypool, a guy we technically gave up a 1st round pick for was supposed to be a big part of the support network for the quarterback. How did that go? His still inexperienced line (3 best players) missed 4-5 games a piece first half of season. Nothing past DJ and Cole are adequate as far as receiver.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3144 on: December 26, 2023, 02:25:33 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 26, 2023, 02:19:17 PM
I think he’s talking about Tempo here and other FFF fans…

https://x.com/jeremylayt0n/status/1739679424126103956?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Same guy uttered this nonsense in the same thread. He’s touting a guy who plays the least important position on the line and can’t stay healthy as a HUGE asset. I like Jenkins, but let’s be real here. Kmet is decent, not special in any way.


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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #3145 on: December 26, 2023, 02:27:51 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 26, 2023, 02:16:26 PM
McLaurin, two 1st rounders, and two 2nd rounders (or 1 additional 1st instead of those two 2nd rounders) and I’ll justify trading it and sticking with Fields. Anything less than that and I say draft Williams.

I’d settle for 2024-2025 1sts, this years’ 2nd, a 3rd, McLaurin. You’d have to trade further down to get more I think.
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« Reply #3146 on: December 26, 2023, 02:29:49 PM »
Washington would almost be guaranteed 5 losses in the NFC East alone. Their 2025 pick will be a high one. Probably really high.
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« Reply #3147 on: December 26, 2023, 05:54:31 PM »
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« Reply #3148 on: December 27, 2023, 12:02:51 AM »
Most #1 pick QBs go to bad teams with minimal weapons, poor coaching, and questionable front offices. Like the Bears. Maybe that’s why the failure rate is so high?
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« Reply #3149 on: December 27, 2023, 12:56:57 AM »
Quote from: Custard on December 27, 2023, 12:02:51 AM
Most #1 pick QBs go to bad teams with minimal weapons, poor coaching, and questionable front offices. Like the Bears. Maybe that’s why the failure rate is so high?

I would assume that’s part of it but mostly, I think it’s just hard to evaluate how someone will translate to the NFL. I definitely think some quarterbacks can be ruined, though most even I think the Bears have done almost everything they could to ruin Justin Fields, and yet he’s still a reasonably desirable commodity, and I feel that’s commendable.
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