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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2505 on: December 18, 2023, 01:21:04 PM »
I’d add a number 6 though.

If someone is arguing something you can’t logically counter, simply make up what you wish they said and argue that instead.  For example if people criticize Fields’ play, make 20 posts in the next day acting like they are saying the play calling is also his fault.  If they try to clarify, ignore them.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2506 on: December 18, 2023, 01:24:39 PM »
Quote from: Playmaker who doesn’t make plays on December 18, 2023, 01:00:48 PM
I thought those blown leads were Justin’s fault and Justin’s only. You argue like projectile vomit.

I said the Denver game was definitely his fault. He was responsible yesterday for his role in being unable to sustain drives. As I said at the time, Eberlose having a DL cover the TE was not ideal....

Again, you want to make stuff up. Fields sucks. The D sucks. As I warned you before, the wins were Fool's Gold. THE PAMan was right and you were WRONG.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2507 on: December 18, 2023, 01:25:14 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 18, 2023, 01:16:47 PM
It’s unreal that you could take the time to type this all out and not even see how perfectly it describes how you “debate” here.

It’s unreal how your debate style mirrors mine exactly. I just provide more snark.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2508 on: December 18, 2023, 01:25:37 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 18, 2023, 01:16:47 PM
It’s unreal that you could take the time to type this all out and not even see how perfectly it describes how you “debate” here.

Thought the same thing.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2509 on: December 18, 2023, 01:26:05 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 18, 2023, 01:21:04 PM
I’d add a number 6 though.

If someone is arguing something you can’t logically counter, simply make up what you wish they said and argue that instead.  For example if people criticize Fields’ play, make 20 posts in the next day acting like they are saying the play calling is also his fault.  If they try to clarify, ignore them.

All too true. 
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2510 on: December 18, 2023, 01:29:55 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 18, 2023, 01:21:04 PM
I’d add a number 6 though.

If someone is arguing something you can’t logically counter, simply make up what you wish they said and argue that instead.  For example if people criticize Fields’ play, make 20 posts in the next day acting like they are saying the play calling is also his fault.  If they try to clarify, ignore them.

So when do we get around to blaming others who are clearly not getting the job done? 97% of your posts are about Fields isn’t good enough. Did you even mention the piss poor blocking and run game? I know you’ve called out the bad play-calling and coaching (but should be easy to overcome, amirite?!). You’ve barely acknowledged the drops (but made sure to harp on the dropped INTs). Hell, you just credited Darnell Mooney for “A hell of a play just to be in position to make a play” on a ball that was almost resting atop his forearms.
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« Reply #2511 on: December 18, 2023, 01:31:41 PM »
Quote from: Playmaker who doesn’t make plays on December 18, 2023, 01:25:14 PM
It’s unreal how your debate style mirrors mine exactly. I just provide more snark.

Pretty iffy self-awareness here if you think we debate similarly.  We don't.

I'm not sure I've ever met someone so willing to shift his "logic" to cater to whatever argument he's trying to make in any given moment in the way you do.  One minute stats don't mean shit, and then the next you find a stat that confirms your bias and "the stats are the stats".  One minute "credible opinions" are meaningful, and in the next you're "more credible" re: the Bears' decision making than the Bears' beat writer.  One minute you rant about how people criticizing Fields 'demand perfection', the next you're acting like Fields could never be even average at QB because his WRs weren't perfect and dropped balls.  One minute it's idiotic to consider spending a high pick to shore up the OL except for center, and in the next minute the OL is so bad that you can't blame Fields for his play and the Bears should've run behind their center on key plays.

I obviously could go on - you flip flop as to "what counts" so consistently you don't even remember most of the time what thing you're trying to argue.  When I try to meet you there and say "okay, we can count the drops if we also count the INT drops", you rant about how unfair that is and how NOBODY ELSE THROWS DROPPED PICKS.

Literally, you do the things you mentioned there worse than anyone I've ever talked sports with, ever.
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« Reply #2512 on: December 18, 2023, 01:33:18 PM »
Quote from: Playmaker who doesn’t make plays on December 18, 2023, 01:29:55 PM
So when do we get around to blaming others who are clearly not getting the job done? 97% of your posts are about Fields isn’t good enough. Did you even mention the piss poor blocking and run game? I know you’ve called out the bad play-calling and coaching (but should be easy to overcome, amirite?!). You’ve barely acknowledged the drops (but made sure to harp on the dropped INTs). Hell, you just credited Darnell Mooney for “A hell of a play just to be in position to make a play” on a ball that was almost resting atop his forearms.

This is THE JFC Thread. Ergo, the talk about JFC. Maybe you can start a The Nate Davis Thread where we can focus on ripping him?

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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2513 on: December 18, 2023, 01:34:11 PM »
It is as if Eberlose already handed Tempo a lump of coal for Christmas.
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« Reply #2514 on: December 18, 2023, 01:35:11 PM »
Quote from: Playmaker who doesn’t make plays on December 18, 2023, 01:29:55 PM
So when do we get around to blaming others who are clearly not getting the job done? 97% of your posts are about Fields isn’t good enough. Did you even mention the piss poor blocking and run game? I know you’ve called out the bad play-calling and coaching (but should be easy to overcome, amirite?!). You’ve barely acknowledged the drops (but made sure to harp on the dropped INTs). Hell, you just credited Darnell Mooney for “A hell of a play just to be in position to make a play” on a ball that was almost resting atop his forearms.


Well, the very first thing I said about the game was "the play calling was terrible".

My posts are mostly about Fields because I also said "and the QB play was mediocre as fuck", and you simply cannot accept any criticism of Fields so you turn it into a dozen page argument.  If you could just acknowledge when Fields plays poorly, we wouldn't have to argue about it and fewer of my posts would be about it.

If you were here arguing "actually the play calling was good and the players are just terrible," most of my posts would be about that because that's just as dumb.

You don't care though.  That I criticized the play calling more forcefully and first isn't material to you.  I also criticized Fields' play and you simply will not allow that to happen without trotting out half a dozen excuses, posting a bunch of nonsense as if I'm blaming him for the playcalling or the play of others, twisting my opinion to say something you CAN argue and arguing against that instead.

I think most people watching the game yesterday would not find "Fields was mediocre as fuck" to be a particularly controversial statement, but you simply will not allow that.  The closest thing you've offered to criticism of his play is to say "he wasn't perfect - he wasn't even Hall of Fame level."
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #2515 on: December 18, 2023, 01:36:27 PM »
Maybe you should make an The Wonderful Eberlose Culture Thread?

Man, is that Belichick Culture quote still magical. How fucking stupid does that take look now?
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« Reply #2516 on: December 18, 2023, 01:36:47 PM »
Quote from: Playmaker who doesn’t make plays on December 18, 2023, 01:29:55 PM
So when do we get around to blaming others who are clearly not getting the job done? 97% of your posts are about Fields isn’t good enough. Did you even mention the piss poor blocking and run game? I know you’ve called out the bad play-calling and coaching (but should be easy to overcome, amirite?!). You’ve barely acknowledged the drops (but made sure to harp on the dropped INTs). Hell, you just credited Darnell Mooney for “A hell of a play just to be in position to make a play” on a ball that was almost resting atop his forearms.

Anyone who watches the video of that Mooney play and thinks it was even remotely an easy catch is being an absolute moron, surely you see that.

I've acknowledged the drops, I don't know, a dozen times or so?  You simply don't care.  You ignore those and try to bite my ankles, as always.  It's all a 'gotcha' game to you.
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« Reply #2517 on: December 18, 2023, 01:48:03 PM »
Yes, you said the play-calling was terrible. And then are miffed it wasn’t overcome. Despite the bad blocking, lack of run game, and crucial drops. You’re just as dug in as PAMan these days. I get the legitimate criticisms of Fields and why you might want to move on. I’m just sick of everyone here blaming him for everything when it’s clearly not ALL him. You acknowledge the bad play-calling then rail on Fields for 8 pages.
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« Reply #2518 on: December 18, 2023, 01:49:32 PM »
Quote from: Playmaker who doesn’t make plays on December 18, 2023, 01:48:03 PM
Yes, you said the play-calling was terrible. And then are miffed it wasn’t overcome. Despite the bad blocking, lack of run game, and crucial drops. You’re just as dug in as PAMan these days. I get the legitimate criticisms of Fields and why you might want to move on. I’m just sick of everyone here blaming him for everything when it’s clearly not ALL him. You acknowledge the bad play-calling then rail on Fields for 8 pages.

Well, Fields can't read defenses and does not make progressions fast enough. Other than that, he is ok.
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« Reply #2519 on: December 18, 2023, 01:50:28 PM »
I probably make that catch in high school. I never dropped a kick or a punt (similar catch with a little higher degree of difficulty) you could ask my high school JV coach, but he’s dead.
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