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« Reply #1590 on: December 11, 2023, 08:08:17 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 06:24:34 AM
I just can’t imagine hearing a rival coach talk about your quarterback this way and the only thought that crosses your mind is “Can’t move off this guy fast enough!”

https://x.com/bradgalli/status/1732743707986624807?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

He is definitely “dangerous”.   He just doesn’t produce consistently in the passing game - only sporadically.

Being dangerous is great, but producing consistently as a passer is what the Bears need from a QB.

I asked yesterday but you didn’t answer - do you think being a great runner and average to slightly below average passer is a sustainable formula for a QB in the modern NFL?
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« Reply #1591 on: December 11, 2023, 08:08:59 AM »
Ahhhhhh, so someone with a higher passer rating.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1592 on: December 11, 2023, 08:10:17 AM »
I don’t think he’ll continue to be a below average passer. I know I know, no excuses tour is over!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1593 on: December 11, 2023, 08:12:03 AM »
Well when he shows that he can be better than below average as a passer consistently we can revisit that, but as of December 11, 2023 that is wishful thinking.  He’s in the middle of year 3.

You went on and on about him turning the corner and then he reverted into this average passer since.
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« Reply #1594 on: December 11, 2023, 08:12:39 AM »
I’d argue Lamar Jackson was a slightly below average passer the last two seasons (before this year). He got rewarded with a 200 million dollar contract. But yeah, I want improvement in the passing game. Upgrade the talent around him, and we’ll get it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1595 on: December 11, 2023, 08:13:49 AM »
Do we have an offensive starter that’s ever made a pro bowl?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1596 on: December 11, 2023, 08:15:31 AM »
I would’ve thought DJ had but according to his Wiki page, he hasn’t.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1597 on: December 11, 2023, 08:16:06 AM »
He has to get through his reads faster. I've seen where read one is covered, read two is open, but by the time he gets to read two, it's covered. And if he has to get to read three, forget it. By then, he's running or getting sacked.

Guys are getting open. He's often not seeing them. I feel like he should be getting through his progressions faster by now. If he can get that part of his game down, it would greatly help him.
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« Reply #1598 on: December 11, 2023, 08:17:13 AM »
Has Fields ever made a pro bowl?

I see we're back to “it’s unreasonable to have expected to see more improvement from Fields as a passer because of his teammates”
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« Reply #1599 on: December 11, 2023, 08:18:48 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 08:12:39 AM
I’d argue Lamar Jackson was a slightly below average passer the last two seasons (before this year). He got rewarded with a 200 million dollar contract. But yeah, I want improvement in the passing game. Upgrade the talent around him, and we’ll get it.

If Fields wins an MVP award he will probably get a big contract too
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« Reply #1600 on: December 11, 2023, 08:25:41 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 11, 2023, 08:18:48 AM
If Fields wins an MVP award he will probably get a big contract too

So two full years of being a below average passer is ok, even great, as long as you won an mvp 3 years ago. Got it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1601 on: December 11, 2023, 08:26:30 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 08:25:41 AM
So two full years of being a below average passer is ok, even great, as long as you won an mvp 3 years ago. Got it.

Do you want to compare Fields to Lamar?  I’m willing to but if I tried to do that I have a feeling you’d mock the idea.

It’s obviously not going to turn out very well for Fields to do that - his best passing season so far is on the level that you’re criticizing Lamar for - but we can if you want.

I’d say Lamar’s been a bit disappointing lately yeah.  He doesn’t run as much as he used to either - that’s kind of the point of wanting to see more of Fields as a passer.

Between the two of them Lamar has clearly had the better career but you’re here saying he’s been below average on a huge contract and that’s bad.  But you also want to keep a guy and give him a one year chance to earn a huge contract despite having been below average thusfar.

You’re holding Lamar to a very different set of standards than Fields.
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« Reply #1602 on: December 11, 2023, 08:27:42 AM »
Quote from: Can’t Miss Quarterback on December 11, 2023, 08:10:17 AM
I don’t think he’ll continue to be a below average passer. I know I know, no excuses tour is over!

Based on what?!
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« Reply #1603 on: December 11, 2023, 08:29:49 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 11, 2023, 08:26:30 AM
Do you want to compare Fields to Lamar?  I’m willing to but if I tried to do that I have a feeling you’d mock the idea.

It’s obviously not going to turn out very well for Fields to do that - his best passing season so far is on the level that you’re criticizing Lamar for - but we can if you want.

I’d say Lamar’s been a bit disappointing lately yeah.  He doesn’t run as much as he used to either - that’s kind of the point of wanting to see more of Fields as a passer.

Between the two of them Lamar has clearly had the better career but you’re here saying he’s been below average on a huge contract and that’s bad.  But you also want to keep a guy and give him a one year chance to earn a huge contract despite having been below average thusfar.

You’re holding Lamar to a very different set of standards than Fields.

I’m talking about the two previous seasons when Lamar wasn’t a particularly good passer.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1604 on: December 11, 2023, 08:30:05 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 11, 2023, 08:26:30 AM
Do you want to compare Fields to Lamar?  I’m willing to but if I tried to do that I have a feeling you’d mock the idea.

It’s obviously not going to turn out very well for Fields to do that - his best passing season so far is on the level that you’re criticizing Lamar for - but we can if you want.

I’d say Lamar’s been a bit disappointing lately yeah.  He doesn’t run as much as he used to either - that’s kind of the point of wanting to see more of Fields as a passer.

Between the two of them Lamar has clearly had the better career but you’re here saying he’s been below average on a huge contract and that’s bad.  But you also want to keep a guy and give him a one year chance to earn a huge contract despite having been below average thusfar.

You’re holding Lamar to a very different set of standards than Fields.

Do it.
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