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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1455 on: December 10, 2023, 10:27:21 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 10:26:01 AM
This a PAMan post through and through. The defense helped blow the Denver game, too. They played a significant role in the loss.

Yep, as did Fields’ habit of turning the ball over at the worst possible time.

Right?  Or just the defense?
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« Reply #1456 on: December 10, 2023, 10:27:54 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 10:24:51 AM
It’s amazing how much you sound like PAMan in some of your posts.

It’s amazing how much you sound like JeffFrank at the end of the Weber era in all of yours regarding Fields.  An uncanny resemblance.
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« Reply #1457 on: December 10, 2023, 10:28:40 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 10, 2023, 10:26:49 AM
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How could we know?  He was hurt and didn’t play.  Are you saying it’s just impossible that he has a bad game?

The amount of evidence you have to ignore to have your views is absolutely hilarious.

Anything is possible, but I’m fairly certain Fields *could’ve* beaten a lifeless Raiders team behind a QB that had barely played in 4 years and the worst team in the league by a comfortable margin at home.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1458 on: December 10, 2023, 10:29:23 AM »
Always an excuse, and those excuses are NOT allowed to be used by other quarterbacks or their offensive coordinator! They’re just his!
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« Reply #1459 on: December 10, 2023, 10:30:40 AM »
When the fourth quarter of the Bears/Broncos game started the Bears were up by 14 and had the ball.  Here’s how the drives went:

Bears Punt
Broncos TD
Fields fumble returned for a TD
Bears turnover on downs
Broncos FG
Fields INT

If you’re not willing to put ANY blame on Fields for that loss, then you’re not honest enough to really engage in debate with.
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« Reply #1460 on: December 10, 2023, 10:31:33 AM »
Brian Hoyer has like 900 yards passing in the last 7 years and we’re supposed to act like beating him and a Raiders team that was clearly giving up on their coach is some sort of monumental feat.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1461 on: December 10, 2023, 10:31:42 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 10:28:40 AM
Anything is possible, but I’m fairly certain Fields *could’ve* beaten a lifeless Raiders team behind a QB that had barely played in 4 years and the worst team in the league by a comfortable margin at home.

Sure, he could’ve.  He also could’ve turned the ball over consistently, been unable to move it through the air, etc and ended up with a closer game or a loss.  He’s certainly shown that ability so far in his career - including in one of the two games you use as your main pieces of evidence.
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« Reply #1462 on: December 10, 2023, 10:32:24 AM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 10, 2023, 10:30:40 AM
When the fourth quarter of the Bears/Broncos game started the Bears were up by 14 and had the ball.  Here’s how the drives went:

Bears Punt
Broncos TD
Fields fumble returned for a TD
Bears turnover on downs
Broncos FG
Fields INT

If you’re not willing to put ANY blame on Fields for that loss, then you’re not honest enough to really engage in debate with.

The fumble was backbreaking, but it was a team loss.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1463 on: December 10, 2023, 10:33:04 AM »
The bootleg was a bad call, too. Even the announcers hinted as much. IIRC they’d gone to the well one two many times. Man was in Fields’ face as soon as he turned around.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1464 on: December 10, 2023, 10:33:46 AM »
Fields has like 45 turnovers in like 38 games 😂 and many of those in critical 4th quarter possessions.
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« Reply #1465 on: December 10, 2023, 10:35:01 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 10:33:04 AM
The bootleg was a bad call, too. Even the announcers hinted as much. IIRC they’d gone to the well one two many times. Man was in Fields’ face as soon as he turned around.

Aren’t you one to preach getting him out of the pocket?! You are constantly using hindsight to make your points. You’re being intellectually dishonest.
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« Reply #1466 on: December 10, 2023, 10:35:31 AM »
It goes back to how predictable Getsy is in pressure situations. Hello, Bucs!

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1467 on: December 10, 2023, 10:35:51 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 10:31:33 AM
Brian Hoyer has like 900 yards passing in the last 7 years and we’re supposed to act like beating him and a Raiders team that was clearly giving up on their coach is some sort of monumental feat.

Nope, nobody said that.  Surprised you’re not more impressed given Bagent’s work with the same nightmare roster and coaching staff that excuse all of Fields’ poor performances though.

The Denver Broncos gave up 70 points and then the next week Fields had a great first half and then handed them the ball three times in the last final minutes of a loss, and we’re supposed to act like that’s some monumental feat.

The Washington Commanders are the worst passing defense in the league by far but we’re supposed to act like Fields lighting them up is some monumental feat.

It’d just be nice if you even pretended to evaluate people consistently but you don’t.  When people point out the Broncos have been a bad passing defense you point to the Mahomes game, but when Tyson Bagent comes up you immediately handwave it because the teams he beat weren’t good enough.  You argue one thing when it supports your preconception and the exact opposite when it contradicts your preconception.
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« Reply #1468 on: December 10, 2023, 10:36:57 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 10, 2023, 10:35:31 AM
It goes back to how predictable Getsy is in pressure situations. Hello, Bucs!



Back to bad faith nonsense like clockwork.

When it’s all you have that supports your point - and it’s clear that it is - your point probably isn’t all that good.  Something I know you’ll never consider.
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« Reply #1469 on: December 10, 2023, 10:37:32 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 10, 2023, 10:35:01 AM
Aren’t you one to preach getting him out of the pocket?! You are constantly using hindsight to make your points. You’re being intellectually dishonest.

It can be true that Getsy sucks and the fumble was a killer. Justin needs to protect the ball better. He also needs coaches that put him in better situations. Fields will be an NFL starter somewhere next year. Getsy will likely be demoted to a lesser role.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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