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« Reply #1380 on: December 09, 2023, 03:05:51 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 03:03:29 PM
I think there are a lot of reasons for that.

Is it possible one of them is that they recognized that one of the weaknesses of their QB is that he isn’t very good passing the ball?
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« Reply #1381 on: December 09, 2023, 03:06:22 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 03:04:18 PM
You think they’ve done a good job with him?

Did I say that or did you?
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« Reply #1382 on: December 09, 2023, 03:06:57 PM »
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1383 on: December 09, 2023, 03:08:38 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 03:06:57 PM
You LOLd it.

You took that LOL and attributed a view to me that you said and I didn’t.

I LOL’d because I thought the comment was funny.

I’ve already made my feelings about Getsy and Eberflus clear.  I also think it’s tough to draw up a good offensive gameplan in the modern NFL if your QB can’t reliably throw the ball.  Those aren’t mutually exclusive.
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« Reply #1384 on: December 09, 2023, 03:09:18 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 03:05:51 PM
Is it possible one of them is that they recognized that one of the weaknesses of their QB is that he isn’t very good passing the ball?

I also think *it’s possible* the OC got overpromoted and they gave him shit for help in a critical development year.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1385 on: December 09, 2023, 03:11:00 PM »
I’m curious why you’re so bullish to attribute Fields’ poor play to poor WRs and OL etc. but give Getsy none of that.  Don’t you think it’s hard for an offensive coordinator to make winning game plans with bad WRs and OL also, even forgetting the bit about a QB who can’t reliably throw the ball?  Why does Fields get his performance excused due to roster issues but Getsy doesn’t?
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« Reply #1386 on: December 09, 2023, 03:11:46 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 03:09:18 PM
I also think *it’s possible* the OC got overpromoted and they gave him shit for help in a critical development year.

If you were an OC and your QB had shown no ability to reliably move the ball with his arm, what gameplan would you draw up that’d show off his skills as a passer?
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« Reply #1387 on: December 09, 2023, 03:28:27 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 03:09:18 PM
I also think *it’s possible* the OC got overpromoted and they gave him shit for help in a critical development year.

He has a legit #1 WR, and Kmet has been playing well. He’s had time to throw. The line is far from perfect, but it’s good enough to evaluate a qb who is 30+ starts in.
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« Reply #1388 on: December 09, 2023, 03:37:16 PM »
Quote from: jobu on December 09, 2023, 03:28:27 PM
He has a legit #1 WR, and Kmet has been playing well. He’s had time to throw. The line is far from perfect, but it’s good enough to evaluate a qb who is 30+ starts in.

I think he means last year.
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« Reply #1389 on: December 09, 2023, 03:41:49 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 03:37:16 PM
I think he means last year.

Oh. Ok, I probably missed some shit lol.
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« Reply #1390 on: December 09, 2023, 03:55:56 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 02:21:04 PM
And his mom was sick,

That one was used by Nate Davis to miss training camp.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1391 on: December 09, 2023, 03:56:44 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 03:37:16 PM
I think he means last year.

Perceptive one, you are.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1392 on: December 09, 2023, 04:10:00 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 03:05:51 PM
Is it possible one of them is that they recognized that one of the weaknesses of their QB is that he isn’t very good passing the ball?

1) Couldn’t protect him
2) Defensive minded head coach looking to extend drives, shorten games, keep them close due to poor roster construction
3) Conservative nature of coaches in general
4) Young, inconsistent quarterback learning a new system
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1393 on: December 09, 2023, 04:11:29 PM »
5) receivers were abysmal
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1394 on: December 09, 2023, 04:15:41 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 03:08:38 PM
You took that LOL and attributed a view to me that you said and I didn’t.

I LOL’d because I thought the comment was funny.

I’ve already made my feelings about Getsy and Eberflus clear.  I also think it’s tough to draw up a good offensive gameplan in the modern NFL if your QB can’t reliably throw the ball.  Those aren’t mutually exclusive.

Lamar wasn’t a particuarly reliable passer the previous two years.

The way to employ Fields is to move the pocket and let him improvise. The Bears don’t consistently try to do that. Getsy calls plays for him like he’s 39 year old Aaron Rodgers.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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