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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1350 on: December 09, 2023, 02:34:32 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 02:22:03 PM
Nope, nobody's ever said that.


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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1351 on: December 09, 2023, 02:36:03 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 02:21:04 PM
And his mom was sick, and he was up late because he'd just gotten a new dog and had to train him, and he had a papercut.

Would these be strawmen arguments?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1352 on: December 09, 2023, 02:36:06 PM »
No, but I don't count PAMan's stupid trolling as someone saying it either.
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« Reply #1353 on: December 09, 2023, 02:36:45 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 02:36:03 PM
Would these be strawmen arguments?

Just trying to predict how the Justin Fields Excuse list was going to play out.  Every single bad game he's ever played in the NFL, there's a reason it wasn't his fault.
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« Reply #1354 on: December 09, 2023, 02:37:42 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
Lol I was comparing performances against the same team in games within a few weeks of each other. Of course, I’m not saying Fields is better than Mahomes. Or am I?

You're saying that in exactly the same way that I was saying Trubisky was.  So by your own logic, yes, and you're going to hear about it for years.

Yes, you're comparing an extremely small sample size that is an obvious career outlier for both QBs in question.

When I compared Trubisky to Mahomes in a small sample size many years ago, you wouldn't even pretend to actually listen to me and instead just said YOURE COMPARING TRUBISKY TO MAHOMES!!?//!! and stuck with that for years no matter how many times I pointed out what I actually meant - you didn't care at all what I actually meant.
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« Reply #1355 on: December 09, 2023, 02:39:16 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 02:36:45 PM
Just trying to predict how the Justin Fields Excuse list was going to play out.  Every single bad game he's ever played in the NFL, there's a reason it wasn't his fault.

I just think it’s a bit unfair to hold him and him alone accountable for a season in which he was given a poor offensive line, even worse receivers, and a rookie OC who didn’t know how to use him in a very critical to his development 2nd year in the league.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1356 on: December 09, 2023, 02:40:42 PM »
Oh, how could I have forgotten Chase Claypool! Miami is loving him to the tune of 3 DNP (coaches decision) and 1 catch!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1357 on: December 09, 2023, 02:44:20 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 02:39:16 PM
I just think it’s a bit unfair to hold him and him alone accountable for a season in which he was given a poor offensive line, even worse receivers, and a rookie OC who didn’t know how to use him in a very critical to his development 2nd year in the league.

There's a reason I don't bring up his win/loss record.  I am evaluating his play, not the team's play.  His play hasn't been very good.  At some point he needs to get SOME accountability for his own play, right?

Do you think there's any merit to an argument that those WRs you're trashing would've looked better with a QB who was a more competent passer?  Or that the OL you're trashing would've looked better with a guy who didn't have Fields' habit of running into sacks?
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« Reply #1358 on: December 09, 2023, 02:45:25 PM »
His 3rd year has provided little continuity with still erratic game plans and usage from the OC, new and injured revolving parts, and a significant injury to his throwing hand. #NoExcuses!
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1359 on: December 09, 2023, 02:46:13 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 02:44:20 PM
There's a reason I don't bring up his win/loss record.  I am evaluating his play, not the team's play.  His play hasn't been very good.  At some point he needs to get SOME accountability for his own play, right?

Sure. As I’ve said, they may move on from him this year and certainly some of that is his fault.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1360 on: December 09, 2023, 02:48:27 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 02:45:25 PM
His 3rd year has provided little continuity with still erratic game plans and usage from the OC, new and injured revolving parts, and a significant injury to his throwing hand. #NoExcuses!

Love the hashtag, given you're using this post to excuse away his play STILL.

If I only read your posts, it would be easy to believe you think the ONLY games Fields has played that it's fair to evaluate him on are the Denver and Washington games this year.  There's some excuse for his play in every one of the other 32 starts.
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« Reply #1361 on: December 09, 2023, 02:50:46 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 02:39:16 PM
I just think it’s a bit unfair to hold him and him alone accountable for a season in which he was given a poor offensive line, even worse receivers, and a rookie OC who didn’t know how to use him in a very critical to his development 2nd year in the league.

How many quarterbacks could endure this, and a year of Nagy’s incompetence to boot and still be thought of as a potential long-term starter in this league. Not a ton.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1362 on: December 09, 2023, 02:53:25 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on December 09, 2023, 02:48:27 PM
Love the hashtag, given you're using this post to excuse away his play STILL.

If I only read your posts, it would be easy to believe you think the ONLY games Fields has played that it's fair to evaluate him on are the Denver and Washington games this year.  There's some excuse for his play in every one of the other 32 starts.

Some of the other 32 starts he was absolutely electric. Just not necessarily from the pocket.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1363 on: December 09, 2023, 02:54:14 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 02:50:46 PM
How many quarterbacks could endure this, and a year of Nagy’s incompetence to boot and still be thought of as a potential long-term starter in this league. Not a ton.

It’s strictly based on his potential and running ability. That is not based on his passing QB ability play that we’ve seen. It’s just not.
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« Reply #1364 on: December 09, 2023, 02:56:46 PM »
At some point potential doesn’t mean shit.
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