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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1260 on: December 09, 2023, 11:33:57 AM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 11:32:23 AM
“Josh Rosen is a “can’t miss quarterback!” But these other three quarterbacks and and six non-quarterbacks are can’t miss betters!”

It's almost like calling someone a "can't miss prospect" is really stupid to do, huh?
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« Reply #1261 on: December 09, 2023, 11:40:45 AM »
Just because somebody said it doesn’t mean he was a can’t miss. Rosen was not a top 10 all-time prospect at the position. And probably not even top 25. A “can’t miss” QB doesn’t go behind 3 other QBs.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1262 on: December 09, 2023, 11:52:54 AM »
I’m jumping out of the “cant miss” debate. We’ll never agree on anything, and it’s even less productive than the Fields talk.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1263 on: December 09, 2023, 12:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 11:40:45 AM
Just because somebody said it doesn’t mean he was a can’t miss. Rosen was not a top 10 all-time prospect at the position. And probably not even top 25. A “can’t miss” QB doesn’t go behind 3 other QBs.

What else would make someone a can't-miss other than people saying it?

You're arguing that guys were "can't miss" prospects based on things that happened after they were drafted, and simply disregarding out of hands the guys that were called that and missed.  It's an easy way to argue, it's just also a silly way to argue.  I literally found examples of a bunch of other guys being called "can't miss" prospects who missed and your response is, well they weren't "can't miss" prospects.
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« Reply #1264 on: December 09, 2023, 12:40:48 PM »
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« Reply #1265 on: December 09, 2023, 12:46:19 PM »
I don’t think the “rookie contract” argument is quite as powerful in this case being the Bears have lots of young players, strong draft capital, and a lot of  money under the cap. It is a check against Fields, though. Fields isn’t really cost prohibitive unless you extend him beyond year 5.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1266 on: December 09, 2023, 12:49:30 PM »
I love how Tempo's argument that any QB would be better in SF completely ignores that Justin Fields Part 2, Trey Lance, sucked in SF and got his ass traded to Dallas.
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« Reply #1267 on: December 09, 2023, 12:53:50 PM »
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I love how Tempo's argument that any QB would be better in SF completely ignores that Justin Fields Part 2, Trey Lance, sucked in SF and got his ass traded to Dallas.

Maybe he’s just not good? I’m sure he’d be better at SF than Cleveland.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1268 on: December 09, 2023, 12:54:42 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 12:53:50 PM
Maybe he’s just not good? I’m sure he’d be better at SF than Cleveland.

Maybe the same could be said for Fields…
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« Reply #1269 on: December 09, 2023, 12:54:55 PM »
I never said that SF can make a bad quarterback good.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1270 on: December 09, 2023, 12:55:15 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 12:54:55 PM
I never said that SF can make a bad quarterback good.

That’s basically your whole argument!
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« Reply #1271 on: December 09, 2023, 12:55:42 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 09, 2023, 12:54:42 PM
Maybe the same could be said for Fields…

Dude, Fields is light years beyond anything Lance has done. In Lance’s defense, he had a catastrophic injury delay his development.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #1272 on: December 09, 2023, 12:57:03 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on December 09, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
That’s basically your whole argument!

Show me where I even “basically” said that.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: THE JFC Thread!
« Reply #1273 on: December 09, 2023, 12:57:10 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 12:53:50 PM
Maybe he’s just not good? I’m sure he’d be better at SF than Cleveland.

You keep saying anyone would do what Purdy is doing in the SF offense and the fact is that isn't true. Ex. A is Trey Lance, aka Justin Fields Part 2.
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« Reply #1274 on: December 09, 2023, 12:58:29 PM »
Quote from: Troy Aikman’s Lackey on December 09, 2023, 12:55:42 PM
Dude, Fields is light years beyond anything Lance has done. In Lance’s defense, he had a catastrophic injury delay his development.

Before that he was not any good despite being in Shanahan's system.
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